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Thread: Customer crafting question...is this good and how to slice it?

Itia
Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:33 am
#1



I would like to get the best weapons to hunt jedi. I'm thinking either pistol or rifle (kinetics right?) Anyways i want that Uber weapon, but i dont want to buy it, I want to get it crafted.


My questions:
1- what ressource do i need (I have ressource kits) and in what quantity for pistol (scatter probably) and rifle (which one laser, trando, LD1?)

2- I have reinforced casing, power cells, some krayt tissue (post-CU), Which one is the best? The stats i have tell me its not the krayt...lol

3-Can reinforced casing be combine with power cell or is this you pick one only one of these component

4- which quantity of these do i need for pistol and for rifle.

5- Whats kind of weaponsmith can craft me this (whats the capped stats he should have)

6- How much a decent weponsmith should charge me for that kind of stuff if i supply everything

7- Finally, what should i tell him; cap the SAC first then go for damage/or speed? Other option? is there such thing like min damage to work on?


thank you


oh and to all the weponsmith ou there (at least on my server...lol) keep up the amazing work your doing...without you guys this game would not exist

Message Edited by Itia on 09-19-2005 04:13 PM




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Cherisse
Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:51 am
#2






Itia wrote:


I would like to get the best weapons to hunt jedi. I'm thinking either pistol or rifle (kinetics right?) Anyways i want that Uber weapon, but i dont want to buy it, I want to get it crafted.


My questions:
1- what ressource do i need (I have ressource kits) and in what quantity for pistol (scatter probably) and rifle (which one laser, trando, LD1?)

2- I have reinforced casing, power cells, some krayt tissue (post-CU), Which one is the best? The stats i have tell me its not the krayt...lol

3-Can reinforced casing be combine with power cell or is this you pick one only one of these component

4- which quantity of these do i need for pistol and for rifle.

5- Whats kind of weaponsmith can craft me this (whats the capped stats he should have)

6- How much a decent weponsmith should charge me for that kind of stuff if i supply everything

7- Finally, what should i tell him; cap the SAC first then go for damage/or speed? Other option? is there such thing like min damage to work on?


thank you


oh and to all the weponsmith ou there (at least on my server...lol) keep up the amazing work your doing...without you guys this game would not exist






I realize you want to be helpful in providing the resources, but IMHO you're much better off finding a MWS on your server that you trust. Meet with the WS and discuss your needs, and let them know which loots you will provide for the weapon. Many MWS like myself have been in business long enough to have the 'best of the best' so the resources would be a needless expense to you. But like me, they also craft custom weapons (with you providing the looted parts) at no extra charge.


Kinetic dmg weapons always use reinforced casings/gorax (except the scatter pistol), and it's one type of loot per weapon (either krayt/powercells or reinforced casings/gorax ).


For MBH I would recommend a Featherweight FWG5 (for the accuracy bonus of +15 built into the schematic). For a longer ranged weapon I would recommenda heavy lightning rifle due to the additional elemental dmg (though it's an energy weapon) or a Czerka Dart Carbine (kinetic dmg). Transdoshan rifle is the highest dmg weapon in the game I believe, and for a WS it's much easier to hit the SAC cap on a carbine or a rifle, compared to a pistol unless you use enhanced powercells.


I would ask the MWS to cap damage and SAC. Min damage increases when max damage is experimented. I would consider a critical hit slice (rather than speed) to do double damage more often.


The MWS you choose can give you the exact quantity of each looted component you will need for each weapon.

Message Edited by Cherisse on 09-18-2005 09:52 AM



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Itia
Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:54 pm
#3

alright thanks, well in this case i will not take my ressource kits for this.


so the scatter pistol cannot be made wtih the reinforced casing? is that it.


are the damage of the Feither Weight pistol better than the scatter at cap, what about speed?








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Summerflame
Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:07 pm
#4

The Featherweight has a higher Damage Cap than the Scatter and it has an inbuild +15 accuracy on top of what you get from scopes.


The Scatter takes Tissues or Enhanced Power Cells, not Casings. Have a look here to see what weapons takes which Enhancers




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Itia
Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:05 pm
#5

alright just when trough most of the sticky and FAQ



thanks for the help






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Muzz
Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:13 am
#6


You might also want to discuss your options if the weapon is for PvP. Some prefer using lower damage tissuesso the dmg line caps outat the point to allow a full damage slice ( I made four Trandos last night for a customer who wanted them crafted like this, getting min dmg545, could get a few more points if everything went perfectly).


Others prefer maxing out the dmg during craft then getting a full critical slice. It's basically down to which method you prefer.




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laodamas
Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:42 am
#7


Truthfully there is not one gun that will cover all situations in PvP. Pistols is the exception for ranged weapons, a kinetic pistol can be crafted as good as an energy pistol. This is not true for rifles and rare to impossible for carbines. The only time damage type will matter is if the Jedi happens to be wearing a PSG. Not all do, alot of Jedi wear a modded belt instead. With no PSG a Jedi has the same resists to all damage types.


Other things to consider. 1) Against a Master Defender or Defender dabbler you want the highest minimum damage you can get. 2) Against a Jedi with very little ranged defense you want the highest maximum damage you can get. 3) Elemental damage does not get reduced as much by defenses as regular damage, so a gun with elemental damage will be better in certain cases.



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Itia
Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:46 am
#8


Are you guys saying that i should not plan on getting a speed slice.

I should get the crafter works on capping SAC and damage, and then slice it for max/min damage?


I always tought that if i could get the best speed out of it, combined with max tapes on my suit that would be the best like this guys has.




this is what i want but transdo instead of advance laser rifle!!!


Message Edited by Itia on 09-19-2005 07:46 AM




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GrooperNugent
Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:20 am
#9

The gun in that pic was a SAC/Dam capped ALR, sliced 100% for speed and has a 33% speed Pup.


Nice Gun




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Summerflame
Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:26 am
#10






GrooperNugent wrote:

The gun in that pic was a SAC/Dam capped ALR, sliced 100% for speed and has a 33% speed Pup.


Nice Gun






its only 1169, Damage cap is 1184, but yeah is a nice weapon



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GrooperNugent
Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:54 am
#11

DOH



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laodamas
Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:52 pm
#12

The gun pictured is decieving in what it will actually do. Speed only matters to a certain point. When you hit the combat speed cap anymore speed is pointless. I once made a D18 to 0.0 speed with a left over power handler from a Flame Thrower build. Going by the DPS formula the DPS would be infinite, but at the time combat speed capped at 1 second and nothing outside of exploits could break that. Boosting a gun to high DPS looks good in pictures but doesnt translate to actual combat. Any top of the line weapon should a)Cap SAC, the longer you can fire specials the higher your actual DPS is. b)Get as close to or hit the damage cap. Higher damage means harder hits every shot. Lastly c)Reach a speed point where anymore speed is pointless, depending on what you want and if critical slicing works, a critical damage slice will also increase your DPS.



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Itia
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:27 pm
#13


nice..thanks for all these advice..now i havemost of my troubles solved.


here is what i got:


FeatherWeight FWG 5

attack speed 1.99

damage:375-966

accuracy bonus 13

wound 13.8%

EstimateBase DPS 336.06

SAC 67


so this is not perfect but pretty close too.


so now how do i slice this?


I'm a bit confused here, if i slice it for damage i understand that only the minimum damage will increase. right?

so i should slice it for speed. Is a full slice a waste. How much of speed slice should i get (and the remain on damage i guess)?





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