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Thread: TKM + Pistoleer or Smuggler
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prometheusiam
Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:16 am
#1
I need your opinions deciding this one. I'm almost TKM, and can't decide between having Pistoleer or Smuggler as my second master. I only have enough skill points to master one other, due to my other interests in Artisan and Medic.
Master Pistoleer is a great PVP profession, with the knockdown and Fanshot, but Smuggler would be very cool as well, with feign death, plus the whole "slice and spice" thing.
Tell me what you guys think, as I've always read good opinions from this profession. One of the few that can write a post in a coherent fashion!
Thanks,
Drek
Master Pistoleer is a great PVP profession, with the knockdown and Fanshot, but Smuggler would be very cool as well, with feign death, plus the whole "slice and spice" thing.
Tell me what you guys think, as I've always read good opinions from this profession. One of the few that can write a post in a coherent fashion!
Thanks,
Drek
farnargle
Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:36 am
#2
do master master pistoleer/tkm and do the tier in smuggle that gives you feign death and low blow. pretty nice template. not sure if nice as the pistoleer/fencer but prob in ballpark. Of course it changes when they take away stacking, but can worry about that when it comes.
NeoEcks
Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:48 am
#4
keeping your skillpoints in medic and artisan, i would suggest you go master pistoleer. Feign Death is nice, but not as good as a good stim pack. there is no smuggling content in the game at the moment. take some time and look at the smuggling forum. many of us have dropped the master title for many reasons. i will not go into them here because this is the TKA forum, but there are MANY reasons not to master smuggler.
Master Teras Kasi Artist / Master Pistoleer is a nice template. you will be happy with the benifits from both
Ipseck
Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:04 am
#5
SilentJay1284 wrote:RIfleman....
Its a powerful stand alone class like TKA.
Heh, if you want nothing to look forward to but nerfs, then yes, this would be the way to go. You'll have the 2 most overpowered professions in the game working for you.
If you want a challenge and nothing to look forward to but improvements, go with pistoleer and/or smuggler, or be different and get carbineer.
Phwoarr
Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:30 am
#6
I am currently working my way up pistoleer + the balance conditioning tree on TKA. At Pistoleer master and tier 3 of the balancing thing, I'll have +70 defense vs knockdown and +55 vs. dizzy... unbuffed.I am hoping that will negate the TKA one-trick PvP tactic of dizzy-KD-lunge-lunge-lunge. With some buffs and skill attachments, I'll easily cap the defenses against the TKA's most-spammed attacks.
We'll see, but I hope to be a professional TKA/doc killer 
As a part of this template, I've concidered taking on smuggler too, but the jury is still out on that one.
Laeren
Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:46 am
#7
Pistoleer 0044, TKM + Smuggler 0040 would give you what you're looking for the most. You can add do 4044 Pistoleer for the dodge modifiers, or 0444 pistoleer for the accuracy modifers, of course too.
Pistoleer offers you betterstatus defenses, and also the Stances line gives pistol speed, so that if you ever use the Panic Shot or Low Blow (smuggler), you won't be standing still while your delay/KD timer runs out. The pistoleer specials are mainly only good for ranged damage, no special status effects or anything there. You're better off Last Ditch'ing than Stopping Shot'ing, for instance. However, Smuggler alone doesn't give you anything to help your pistol skills, so you will need Pistoleer to be effective with your smuggler special shots.
Message Edited by Laeren on 03-03-2004 09:46 AM
SilentJay1284
Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:00 am
#8
Funny, I heard the samething nerf cries with TKA and Eyeshot, still waiting for those.
Ipseck wrote:
SilentJay1284 wrote:
RIfleman....
Its a powerful stand alone class like TKA.
Heh, if you want nothing to look forward to but nerfs, then yes, this would be the way to go. You'll have the 2 most overpowered professions in the game working for you.
If you want a challenge and nothing to look forward to but improvements, go with pistoleer and/or smuggler, or be different and get carbineer.
prometheusiam
Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:58 am
#9
Damn, I was really hoping that someone would tell me to go TKM/Smuggler!! I'm actually novice pistoleer right now, no boxes filled yet, and surprisingly, it takes a damn long time to get the XP for a box. I don't grind, just enjoying the game, but I don't want to get burnt out on missions and such while trying to get some decent pistoleer skills. That's why I though Smuggler would be fun, because you're doing something else other than F5, F5, F4, kill the mob, get 2k xp. Ya know?
I know, I'm asking for 2 different things here I guess. For PVP, it sounds like Pistoleer is the way to go if I have to make the choice between the two. I'll wait it out and see what the final tally is and take it from there.
Good opinions so far people, thanks. Keep 'em coming.
Drekko
-Chili- server
I know, I'm asking for 2 different things here I guess. For PVP, it sounds like Pistoleer is the way to go if I have to make the choice between the two. I'll wait it out and see what the final tally is and take it from there.
Good opinions so far people, thanks. Keep 'em coming.
Drekko
-Chili- server
NeoEcks
Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:46 am
#10
again i suggest you look in the smuggler forum. there are some EXCELENT posts stickied at the top about templates and grinding pistol XP
i have a carbineer 1/0/1/0 that i am working on at the moment. i REALLY like the class, but it does not complement tka well because of the HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY ham costs of using your carbine specials. carbineer is GREAT with Doc or CM (my tempate) but not with anything melee really.
rifle is a great choise as well, uses mind not health and 90% of your action, but if you think it takes a long time to get pistol XP....ack
so again, i would still suggest that you go with pistoleer until more of the combat revamps come along, then re-evaluate if you like
WookieOgre
Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:09 pm
#11
prometheusiam wrote:
Damn, I was really hoping that someone would tell me to go TKM/Smuggler!! I'm actually novice pistoleer right now, no boxes filled yet, and surprisingly, it takes a damn long time to get the XP for a box. I don't grind, just enjoying the game, but I don't want to get burnt out on missions and such while trying to get some decent pistoleer skills. That's why I though Smuggler would be fun, because you're doing something else other than F5, F5, F4, kill the mob, get 2k xp. Ya know?
I know, I'm asking for 2 different things here I guess. For PVP, it sounds like Pistoleer is the way to go if I have to make the choice between the two. I'll wait it out and see what the final tally is and take it from there.
Good opinions so far people, thanks. Keep 'em coming.
Drekko
-Chili- server
Getting Pistol xp is not as hard as you think. Just go up the tree with Fanshot first, then everything else is easy. Fanshot will give you the ability to hit multiple targets at once which rolls in the xp.......I mastered Pistoleer in a week. After mastering Pistoleer, it took me 2 days to master Smuggler because the speed/accuracy mods help you that much when firing a pistol. To answer you, Im going Master Pistol/Master SMuggler/Master Teras. For you I would suggest 0/0/4/4 Pistoleer with 0/0/4/0 in Smuggler while keeping TKM.....this isif you plan on keeping all the medic/artisan skills.
MasterDurron
Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:57 pm
#12
If you didn't know. Pistoleer/Smuggler/TKA can be mastered at the same time. Since Pistoleer and Smuggler share the pistol tree, and TKA and Smuggler share the unarmed tree it's possible leaving you with 1 extra skill point.
llllMaverickllll
Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:20 pm
#13
Master Pistoleer is a great PVP profession, with the knockdown and Fanshot
Pistoleer isn't a good PvP proffesion. It gives some good accuracy, speed, and defensive mods, but nothing that stands out offensively. The pistoleer knockdown is a melee hit, so you might as well use KD2 from TKA.
Pistoleer is a good proffesion to have, just not on it's own. Throw CH + medicon there and your a great PvE player. Throw TKM + fencer +dirty fighting in andyour a great PvP player. Alone though, tough to say it's much of anything.
It'll work fine for you though since you have TK, just use it to give opponents the impression that kiting won't be effective on you, then bust em down in close range.
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