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Thread: Mastered TK few questions

Flatlinedmemory
Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:11 pm
#1

I heard that unarmed combo 2 is basically the same unarmed combo 1 , but costs more HAM. Is that true ? If so I guess I wanna use combo 1

Heard simlilar things about unarmed hit 3 and 2
blaketheone
Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:38 pm
#2

unarmedcombo 2 is more powerfull,i dono about ham,and unarmedhit3 is wayyy better than unarmedhit2



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TheRockStar
Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:43 pm
#3


Steer clear of combo 2, you're much better of either using unarmedHit3 or one of the stat-pool specific moves - unarmedHeadHit1 will become your friend

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TravonLepen
Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:50 pm
#4

Unarmed combo, as it is right now seems to focus more on the Health pool, and seems to have a higher dps than unarmed combo 2. The HAM costs are what make Combo 2 less appealing to people.


IMO UH3 is an upgrade over UH2, but I regularly use both.



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Voave25
Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:49 pm
#5

i use hit2 if im not buffed.
TheRockStar
Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:11 am
#6

It's quite a nice the about unarmedHit2 vs 3 - they're both useful - 3 has signifcant damage but will also drain your stats very fast - I probably use Hit2 more often



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Avoss
Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:04 pm
#7

unarmed 3 is the best move for TK. when i KD and unarmed 3 i do almost 4L damage to some animals. its different if u fight npc's with armor. you get this move when u are master for a reason...because its the best
jbuttrill
Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:26 pm
#8

I better throw my two cents in here as my info seems to be a little contrary to this consensus.


UH3 will do a high value of dmj but spread equally between all 3 stat pools. I think the actuall number is around 533 points of dmj to health, action, and mind.

UC1 will do higher rate of dmj to the health and mind pools but higher ratio on health. I think its around 600.

UHH oviously targets the mind.

UC2 I have to be honest, I have no clue...lol I havnt tested it.


So, I rarely use UH3 in pvp. i only use it in pve. In pvp, if my opponent has low health and action, I use combo1 to knock down that health pool. If they are buffed, I use head hit.

As far as which move you should use, it really matters what you are doing. PVE....go ahead and use that UH3. PVP.....use combo1 and head hit. They will isolate those pools much better for ya.




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TravonLepen
Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:59 pm
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jbuttrill wrote:

I better throw my two cents in here as my info seems to be a little contrary to this consensus.


UH3 will do a high value of dmj but spread equally between all 3 stat pools. I think the actuall number is around 533 points of dmj to health, action, and mind.

UC1 will do higher rate of dmj to the health and mind pools but higher ratio on health. I think its around 600.

UHH oviously targets the mind.

UC2 I have to be honest, I have no clue...lol I havnt tested it.


So, I rarely use UH3 in pvp. i only use it in pve. In pvp, if my opponent has low health and action, I use combo1 to knock down that health pool. If they are buffed, I use head hit.

As far as which move you should use, it really matters what you are doing. PVE....go ahead and use that UH3. PVP.....use combo1 and head hit. They will isolate those pools much better for ya.







/agree


I use UH3 almost exclusively in PvE it works great against mob's.


In PvP I use my UH3 to "mask" when I am applying states. Lol, it also makes some people think you're just a n00b and you keep spamming UH3




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BowraRisingDawn
Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:55 pm
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jbuttrill wrote:

I better throw my two cents in here as my info seems to be a little contrary to this consensus.


UH3 will do a high value of dmj but spread equally between all 3 stat pools. I think the actuall number is around 533 points of dmj to health, action, and mind.

UH3 does NOT hit all three pools evenly. It hits health the most at about 60-65% of the time, action is a lower percentage, and mind is the lowest. I don't have a single clue where you are getting 533 from since there are so many variables involved in how much damage you do, including the armor type and resists of your opponent.

UC1 will do higher rate of dmj to the health and mind pools but higher ratio on health. I think its around 600.

UC1 hits health and mind, those are the two pools it may hit, and you are correct about the ratio, but again, the 600 is just a random number unless you care to explain the context in which it is used. And there is NO way that it would EVER hit for more than UH3 unless you are doing some funky funky testing.

UHH oviously targets the mind.

yes, and you should only be using this attack under certain circumstances, includingevery single time you pvp against someone withnovice medic or above (which will be pretty much EVERY time you pvp). but it is worth noting that if you are intimidated or stunned and hitting someone with 70%+ kinetic helmet, you are going to be hitting them for less damage per second than their mind can regenerate if they are even the least bit prepared and have stacked brandy, mind buffs, canape, etc. don't even bother unless your opponent is KD'd.

UC2 I have to be honest, I have no clue...lol I havnt tested it.

This move is not widely used because it hits health and action pools i believe... useless since you could do more damage in a similar proportion with UH3 and you also have a chance of hitting mind.






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jbuttrill
Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:10 am
#11






BowraRisingDawn wrote:






jbuttrill wrote:

I better throw my two cents in here as my info seems to be a little contrary to this consensus.


UH3 will do a high value of dmj but spread equally between all 3 stat pools. I think the actuall number is around 533 points of dmj to health, action, and mind.

UH3 does NOT hit all three pools evenly. It hits health the most at about 60-65% of the time, action is a lower percentage, and mind is the lowest. I don't have a single clue where you are getting 533 from since there are so many variables involved in how much damage you do, including the armor type and resists of your opponent.

533 is how it worked for me. Dunno about numbers too welll...im not that smart

UC1 will do higher rate of dmj to the health and mind pools but higher ratio on health. I think its around 600.

UC1 hits health and mind, those are the two pools it may hit, and you are correct about the ratio, but again, the 600 is just a random number unless you care to explain the context in which it is used. And there is NO way that it would EVER hit for more than UH3 unless you are doing some funky funky testing.

600 was the base dmj it was hiting "for me". "no way it would ever hit more than UH3"...hmm dunno what to say...it always hits my targets for more health dmj....

UHH oviously targets the mind.

yes, and you should only be using this attack under certain circumstances, includingevery single time you pvp against someone withnovice medic or above (which will be pretty much EVERY time you pvp). but it is worth noting that if you are intimidated or stunned and hitting someone with 70%+ kinetic helmet, you are going to be hitting them for less damage per second than their mind can regenerate if they are even the least bit prepared and have stacked brandy, mind buffs, canape, etc. don't even bother unless your opponent is KD'd.

Yep, thus the problem with the state of pvp right now. This is true for every part of the body you would try and target. Thats why I picked up CM to help with that mind reduction

UC2 I have to be honest, I have no clue...lol I havnt tested it.

This move is not widely used because it hits health and action pools i believe... useless since you could do more damage in a similar proportion with UH3 and you also have a chance of hitting mind.

Oh ok, thanks....never used it. I need to tinker with it just havnt gotten the chance. i rarely use UH3...i think it sucks in pvp...just my opinion. The combo 1 is highly under rated...use it just to experiment, I think you'll be happy. I'll re-run some of my numbers becaus I could be wrong....but then again Im not too smart so you guys might end up with dimensions on playmate of the month vice real working numbers...







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jbuttrill
Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:16 am
#12






TravonLepen wrote:





jbuttrill wrote:

I better throw my two cents in here as my info seems to be a little contrary to this consensus.


UH3 will do a high value of dmj but spread equally between all 3 stat pools. I think the actuall number is around 533 points of dmj to health, action, and mind.

UC1 will do higher rate of dmj to the health and mind pools but higher ratio on health. I think its around 600.

UHH oviously targets the mind.

UC2 I have to be honest, I have no clue...lol I havnt tested it.


So, I rarely use UH3 in pvp. i only use it in pve. In pvp, if my opponent has low health and action, I use combo1 to knock down that health pool. If they are buffed, I use head hit.

As far as which move you should use, it really matters what you are doing. PVE....go ahead and use that UH3. PVP.....use combo1 and head hit. They will isolate those pools much better for ya.







/agree


I use UH3 almost exclusively in PvE it works great against mob's.


In PvP I use my UH3 to "mask" when I am applying states. Lol, it also makes some people think you're just a n00b and you keep spamming UH3





LOL... do the same thing to make people think i dont know what im doing. Thats so funny. Also, I love entering a duel with another tk and he ends up spamming UH3. I think, "oh this ones gonna be easy!"





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The_Mandalorian316
Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:20 am
#13

while in the squill caves, i noticed that unarmedcombo2 was less damaging as unarmedcombo1



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