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master nuthin
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I found the numbers on the Pikeman Forums.

Im a TKM, M-Swordsman, Doctor 4xxx and I need help with my skills.

The skills I have are:

Combo

Dizzy

Leg Sweep

Power Attack

Head hit

Critical Hit

Armor Break.

I know Armor and Leg are given but what other moves should I use for the most damage? I go barefirsted or knuckles so keep that im mind please.

Thank You!

Brawler Specials
Lunge-- 1.6x multiplier -- Extended Range
Melee Hit -- 2.0x multiplier
Melee Strike -- 2.2x multiplier
Melee Assault -- 2.8x multiplier

Improved Binding Strike -- 0.4x multiplier -- Reduces Action Regen

Advanced Bleed Attack -- 0.6x multiplier -- Bleed

Advanced Blind Attack -- 0.6x multiplier -- Blind

Improved Cripple Attack -- 0.6x multiplier -- Reduces Movement Speed

Improved Scatter Hit -- 1.4x multiplier -- (bugged damage display?)

Advanced Lunge -- 2.2x multiplier -- Extended Range

Improved Body Hit -- 3.2x multiplier

Pikeman Specials
Advanced Sweep Attack -- 1.0x multiplier -- Area Knockdown
Improved Stunning Blow -- 1.0x multiplier -- Stun
Improved Spin Attack -- 2.4x multiplier -- Area Attack
Improved Leg Hit -- 3.0x multiplier
Improved Impale-- 3.6x multiplier

Critical Strike -- 2.8x multiplier -- Chance For Critical Hit

Head Hit -- 3.2x multiplier

Improved Critical Strike -- 3.6x multiplier -- Chance For Critical Hit

Improved Power Attack -- 3.8x multiplier

Teras Kasi Specials
Advanced Dizzy Attack-- 1.2x multiplier -- Dizzy
Advanced Leg Sweep-- 1.8x multiplier -- Knockdown
Advanced Combo Attack-- 3.0x multiplier

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tbh I dont think this calculations ( whoever made them ) arent correct. Im just TKM, no other melee master currently, but the dmg multiplier for melee hit for example, is just x1.

I did my own calculations with every profession ive mastered since CU to compare the damages. I test this on level 1 mob at the borders of tatoine cities, kreetles, rills, worrts etc.. they have no ( hidden ) resistances against any dmg type and as u usual do max dmg even with weps uve no skills for ( wots quiet stupid imo ) its very easy to compare.

My katarn has a max dmg of 715 + 120 cold = 835

melee hit dmg is in 90% of all cases just 835, sometimes less, never more, so its just x1

melee lunge is x 0.8 with extended range to 10m

melee strike is x 1.1 to 1.2

advanced leg sweep is x 0.8 to 0.9

advanceddizzy is x 0.65

advanced combo is difficult to test as the combat messages are bugged and level 1 creatures have to less health points.Combat chat shows 477 points of dmg to level 1. I recognized in fights against other mobs ( which resistances i dont know ) a dmg of around 1.2k withmy katarn, wot would let suggest that the combat chat just shows 1/3 of the dealed dmg. tho in this case the damage multiplier on combo attack would be just at around x 1.5 instead of x 3

would be curious about the results of other players who did calculations, maybe with help of third hand programs. i would especially be interested in the dmg multipliers of swordsman, or if the above listed for swordsman are correct.

///black-eye - deadly nerfed lizard///

armor break / leg sweep / crit / head / crit / head

maybe ill throw a power in there somwhere

-who lightdust

Double your numbers (or halve his) and compare them, you're just using different bases for your calculations (since the list is from the Pikeman forum, naturally a pikeman attack is base x1.0).

I agree though, for TKM the base should be Melee Hit at x1.0

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Here is my testing on a few specials I have been looking at recently. This data is from fighting CL82 lesser plains bols and I factored out their armor absorb and did not use any debuffs (leg sweep, blind, dizzy, break armor). My templates were TKM, Doc 4xx4, Sword 4144 (for improved power attack) and then Sword 1444 (for improved head hit). I never equipped a weapon and Melee Hit unarmed *always* landed for 539 damage and I used it as my base (1.0) multiplier.

Advanced Combo = 808 damage / 1.5x

Melee Strike = 593 / 1.1x

Power Attack = 916 / 1.71x

Improved Power Attack = 1024 / 1.9x

Head Hit = 862 / 1.6x

Imp Head Hit = 916 / 1.71x

Improved Crit = 970 / 1.8x

If you pay attention to action cost, IMO the most efficient special we can use while unarmedis Improved Head hit. It uses significantly less action than the other high damage specials (both power attacks, imp crit, and adv combo). With the studying I have been doing lately, I have decided that if I drop Msword I will go with Sword 1444 and default melee with melee hit, special attack mostly with Imp Head Hit, and when mobs are knocked down use Improved Crit.

Note that I don't have the high end knuckles so I cannot compair, however they should scale with my unarmed damage at exactly the same rate as above. My next test is going to be with my Scythe equipped and after that I may test MSword with my powerhammer.

Before someone flames me for my data not being the same as theirs, do a log yourself and see what you get. FYI, here are some clips from my logs so you can see where I got my numbers:

Something to take note of is that Improved Head Hit consistantly hit for more damage after armor than Improved Power Attack even though Imp Power Attack had a higher *possible* damage. Does anyone know if this is working as intended? Is Imp Head Hit supposed to have some bonus versus armor?

my current combat chat IG just tells me: ..... hits for xxx dmg.....

nothing about the kind of attack, nothin about the creatures name, nothin about the possible dmg and the absorption. as i think this is really helpfull, even if it spams the chat all over, i would want to ask if any1 of u know, how to set up the channels to get this informations in my combat chat......

///black-eye - deadly nerfed lizard///

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black-eye wrote:

im grinding up swordsman at, so im soon able to test the damages of swords attacks, but im pretty sure the results will be(nearly ) same as urs.

but ive another question about ur combat chat. i noticed while playin on TC ( CU testing ) that my combat chat showed exactly the same things as wot u wrote down : .xy uses yx attack for xx dmg..... mob creatures armor absorbed xxx dmg of possible xxxx dmg ......

my current combat chat IG just tells me: ..... hits for xxx dmg.....

nothing about the kind of attack, nothin about the creatures name, nothin about the possible dmg and the absorption. as i think this is really helpfull, even if it spams the chat all over, i would want to ask if any1 of u know, how to set up the channels to get this informations in my combat chat......

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In your options there is a check box to turn on verbose combat messages, I can't remember where, but it's in there somewhere at the bottom of one of the sections.

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Clest Al'Tere

Normally, I'd use Armor Break, Leg Sweep, Combo Attack. That will dish out some damage. After that, it's up to you.

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