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Thread: What is the cheapest bleed we can get? (in skill points)

Dinian
Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:07 pm
#1

I'm thinking one of the marksman 4th boxes... probably Pistol 4 since its a health bleed which coincides with most of our damage.


However, that's 15 skill points for novice marksman alone... which brawler elite has the lowest hanging bleed attack?


The reason I ask is that in PvE our #1 weakness is being limited to kinetic damage attacks... however if we can get any sort of bleed in, we can just tank and win through attrition.


Obviously my main character doesn't have any problem finding bleed shots, but I'm considering TKM on another server... thanks




Dinian :: Master Swordsman - Teräs Käsi Master - Force Adept
Retired producer of fine weapons for Kong Technologies
KnightHawk420
Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:12 pm
#2

I don't think its worth it. I think when your a pistoleer and you do 1k in dmg tops... bleeds make sense.



As a TKA... I dunno.. *shrug*.....



I'd probably prefer the rifle mind bleed as opposed to the pistol bleed. The mind bleed is better due to the increased dmg of the rifle over the health bleed.




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Dinian
Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:16 pm
#3

Ok tell you what, lets go find one of those nightsisters that is 100% resist to kinetic and is vulnerable to stun.


I'll use my crappy P.O.S. tangle pistol and you use your VK, I'll auto attack and you can use UA3 spam all day.


Get my point yet?




Dinian :: Master Swordsman - Teräs Käsi Master - Force Adept
Retired producer of fine weapons for Kong Technologies
Dinian
Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:18 pm
#4

(Oh and I agree about the rifle bleeding doing more raw bleed damage than a pistol bleed.)


I think a power hammer bleed would be the best by far... I'll need to do a skill point analysis to see which is cheaper.


What box does a Swordsman get his first bleed?




Dinian :: Master Swordsman - Teräs Käsi Master - Force Adept
Retired producer of fine weapons for Kong Technologies
KnightHawk420
Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:39 pm
#5

Yeah you got me on the nightsister..... check my sig, I'll just land a DOT flame on her. hehe



Cheylin Mena - R.I.P.
Menon Mena - R.I.P.
Hunglo Bavmador - R.I.P.
Longbow1187
Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:18 pm
#6






Dinian wrote:

(Oh and I agree about the rifle bleeding doing more raw bleed damage than a pistol bleed.)


I think a power hammer bleed would be the best by far... I'll need to do a skill point analysis to see which is cheaper.


What box does a Swordsman get his first bleed?






You get Swordsman bleeds with the combat xp line, think its the first box.



Keevav
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Ehogack
Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:35 pm
#7

The 2h Finesse line(combat xp) gives the mind bleeds. Takes 20points to get Novice Swordsman, then 14 more to get master Finesse(which you'll need if you wanna use PH).


Pistols IV is 29 points, so only5 point more spent for 2 huge mind bleeds.

Dinian
Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:40 pm
#8

Hehe, yeah I saw your sig... but you were making a claim about pistols versus TKA... obviously a commando has a decent DOT attack or two



Dinian :: Master Swordsman - Teräs Käsi Master - Force Adept
Retired producer of fine weapons for Kong Technologies
deftech
Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:59 pm
#9

Sword mind bleeds are huge...it's also nice because you can just finish them off with a few nexu grin's.



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h310ise
Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:14 pm
#10

Carbineer's Action bleed (gotten in carbines4, a mere 14 skill points above novice marksman (i think...)) is a bleed WITH AN UNDOCUMENTED POSTURE CHANGE THAT MIGHT NOT BE ON A TIMER. I'm TK/Rifles just because i like the rifles better, but if I was smart, and didn't want the rifles' added defense bonuses, I'd take carbines. You don't even need Novice Carbineer to get it! Now the posture change on actionshot1 is no where near as good as our Knockdown, but it does temporarily stop kiters.

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Hoonge
Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:52 pm
#11

Swordsman have the best bleeds in the game, by far. I can stack over 5000 damage worth of bleeds on things with a 600 damage power hammer, which isn't necessarily "high end"... just a run of the mill PH with a damage slice (28% I think)... and thats without knocking something over first.


It might take more points, but Finesse gives you by far the biggest bleeds in the game, not to mention its in the mind pool.






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Zoltahn
Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:26 pm
#12

i was bleeding fambaas with just my vk and ua3.



Draq Ebonfang
AOD
Assassin/Swashbuckler
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