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wow 20 seconds!!!!! In PVE, Iused warcry, then immediately KD2. The critter would stay on its back during the whole duration of warcry, while I would hit for the 50% bonus killing the critter before it could get up. It should also work with warcry2 and keep the critter down for 20 seconds as well. Any master brawlers with KD verify this?

What about BE enhanced clothing if you stack 2 articles and get max +25 on intmidate and warcry? Does this help non-master brawlers extend their intimidate1 and warcry1???

Anybody?????

Nyah Prentiss - TK Master

Warcry can stop enemy for 20 seconds?

If you use that with Knock Down 2, and that means you can non stop attacking the enemy for 30 seconds.

Yep. Heres a PVP Scenario for you (This is how ive never lost in PVP)

Lunge2, 30 second timer begins while they are down uanble to attack you, beat themf or 5 sec, when they get up Warcry2, you have 20 seconds to beat them, and 25 seconds until you can KD again, when 20 sec are up, theres 5 sec left till the KD timer is over and you can KD again and 10 sec till the WC2 timer is over (30-20 = 10). You have 5 sec where the enemy can hit you, the KD timer is up now, KD again, in the 5 seconds you are being hit, followed by the 5 sec of downtime after you KD him once the timer is up. The WC2 timer is now up as well, rinse and repeat.

It's not sure-fire as you can fail WC2 and all sorts of things can happen (thats the fair and balanced part of it) but if it works, you're relatively guaranteed to win.

a more realistic version would be,

A-TkM sees enemy, with pets, smeaks in and uses kd2 on play, warcry2 on pets and beats the player in less than 10 seconds. WIthout pets fighting back even after being commanded.

B-Player sees tkm and sicks pets on him. TKM uses warcry2 and now has 20 seconds to catch player and use lunge/kd2 before both pets and player starts doing damage to him.

But in theory, yes you can keep a player/players out of a entire fight. Warcry2, lunge, kd =30 seconds of delay. But we can already do that with KD2. Anda fight for us shouldn't last longer than 10 seconds once we catch them.

But to answer you question, is brawler worth it. You have to ask yourself what type of character you want. All melee no range then you can't be considered a melee without master brawler, IMHO. If you use lunge/intimidate/warcry then it's worth it, trust me. Finish off a defilier (sp) in8 seconds at 0-1-3-2 of tka. I don't bother to debuff them anymore, since they never hit me more than 1 or 2 times. Also with the up coming changes to tka, there will be a big difference to those tkm that have master brawler than those who don't.

Not to say a tkm without it is gimped. There's plenty of other skills you can get in other profs that can work as well. Smugglar pistol line and panic shot, delays for 10 seconds. Low blow for range kd. Feign death, best skill in the pve world. Or you can go up fencer line for the defensive bonuses, aedizzy.

Thanks guys this is enlightning...on problem is is that would have to give up 4-3-1-3 CH to do this....ahhhhh...this is a hard decision...unless they gimp CH and then the decision wouldnt be as hard to make.

Great input though...I have alot to think about.

the differences of waycry1 and 2, and intimidate 1 and 2 aren't much.

Warcry1- 10 second delay

Warcry2-20 seconds delay

That's really it, doesn't stick more often than the other. Last i checked ham cost is the same. Same with intimidate, int2 last longer than int1. That's it. Both have stacking effects but why cast int1 5 times, when you can use int2 once for the same amount of time/effectiveness.

Lunge1 vs lunge2. Before patch, not much difference. After patch, lunge2 does about double the damage.

Now the bonuses, right now aren't a big deal. +5 accuracy/speed you won't notice. But after patch, could mean an extra 5-10 seconds of avoiding damage. This being said, it may not be worth it if you got alot of points to spend, but with my template ( master tka, master brawler, doc 0-4-3-0) it was the ebst place to spend my last 55 points.

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