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Thread: fix to the complaining of offense

quitch
Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:28 pm
#1

look here:



Pikeman Specials
Advanced Sweep Attack -- 1.0x multiplier -- Area Knockdown
Improved Stunning Blow -- 1.0x multiplier -- Stun
Improved Spin Attack -- 2.4x multiplier -- Area Attack
Improved Leg Hit -- 3.0x multiplier
Improved Impale-- 3.6x multiplier



Teras Kasi Specials
Advanced Dizzy Attack-- 1.2x multiplier -- Dizzy
Advanced Leg Sweep-- 1.8x multiplier -- Knockdown
Advanced Combo Attack-- 3.0x multiplier


as you can see, TK lacks damage specials, only having 3. if you add another special, which does 2.6xmultiplier, your problem is fixed. call it advanced unarmed hit, and it does 2.6x damage multiplier... problem solved.



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Vander_Legion
Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:57 am
#2

the reason TK doesnt have as high multipliers on specials is because we hit faster, so don't have to hit as hard for the good damage.



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iijin
Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:56 am
#3






Vander_Legion wrote:

the reason TK doesnt have as high multipliers on specials is because we hit faster, so don't have to hit as hard for the good damage.





This is incorrect, I have tested against swords and pike. We do not hit fasteraccording tothe combat log and I am speed capped using a max speed sliced katarn.



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quitch
Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:03 am
#4






iijin wrote:






Vander_Legion wrote:

the reason TK doesnt have as high multipliers on specials is because we hit faster, so don't have to hit as hard for the good damage.





This is incorrect, I have tested against swords and pike. We do not hit fasteraccording tothe combat log and I am speed capped using a max speed sliced katarn.





explain since there is no cap



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iijin
Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:39 am
#5

actually there is a +25 mod cap, you can only add +25 CA/AAs



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Vander_Legion
Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:50 am
#6

+25 mods on clothes doesnt speed cap you, just cap your clothing mods. There's still max speed slice and speed pups



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Riemei
Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:19 pm
#7

There are no combat speed buffs in our template. Our overall speed mod is only 90. A katarn knuckler is only 0.4-0.3 lower in base speed than agood power hammer or vibrolance. All other speed mods, CAs, pups, slices,combat speed buffs and general melee speed mods from other professionsare available toeverybody elseas well. Where is thisimaginary speed you keep talking about?
Abdiso
Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:07 pm
#8

quitch is always disagreeing with every tkm post maybe he's a jedi




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Riemei
Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:20 pm
#9

Will you get this bee out of your bonnet? What did quitch do, piss in your coffee? Stop derailing threads to carry onthis inane vendetta that no one cares about.


2.6is notstrong enough. Adding in another attack with a subpar modifier will do nothing, because people will stillbe forcedto look to the other professions for their offensive specials. If our offense is rated at 3 then we should have adequate offensive specials from our own mastery alone. A 3.0 and a 3.6 to equal those available to pikemen will allow us to rely chiefly on our own skillset and dabble in swordsman/pikeman for things like AB, intimidate and warcry, the sameway they pick up TKA x1xx for icob right now.
iijin
Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:12 pm
#10






Vander_Legion wrote:

+25 mods on clothes doesnt speed cap you, just cap your clothing mods. There's still max speed slice and speed pups





I have a max speed slice on my katarn and I use speed pups considering its ADKed. Considering that +25 above what you normally get is best you can do with mods I would call that speed capped. Wouldn't that all the speed you can have? Your professions max speed + 25 unarmedspeed, well I guess you could also get +25 general speed tooif you have 100's of millions of credits.



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quitch
Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:47 pm
#11






Abdiso wrote:
quitch is always disagreeing with every tkm post maybe he's a jedi





? do you have a point? im 1 unlock and 2 phases from jedi... seems like you are stalking me



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quitch
Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:48 pm
#12






Abdiso wrote:
quitch is always disagreeing with every tkm post maybe he's a jedi





and also, the REASON people arent doing as much damage, is because they dont have enough specials, and the 3 specials, dont do enough damage (besides combo)



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quitch
Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:49 pm
#13






Abdiso wrote:
quitch is always disagreeing with every tkm post maybe he's a jedi





and really, this is disagreeing? hmm lets stop and think now - most of this forums wants to be better at offense. i just said why they were bad at it, and suggested a FIX. how is that disagreeing? i am guessing you are just looking at my posts and if you see me you must think i am flaming/disagreeing, when i just posted a suggestion... 12 posts LAFFO



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