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Thread: TKA Questions about HAM and armor
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TraceJelSadow
Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:30 am
#1
Hiya
Im a Master TKA and a Master Pistoleer. My question to everyone is this. I seeMaster TKA spamming unarmed 3 on creatures like Geonosians, nightsister, tusken observers etc etc etc ya know they higher level mobs. The TKA has a full set of composite armor, vibro knuckles, buff and probably has consumed some sort of drug.
The whole time i see this TKA his HAM bars never move while he is fighting His mind stays full the whole time. SO i go out buy a good set of composite armor buff up on all HAM shot two brandy and head out to the Geo cave i fight 3 geo-goons and bamm my mind is almost gone now i need to remove my armor and chill until im ready to fight again. How is it that some players HAM bars stay so high while fighting high level mobs and i cant. I know that there is probably an easy solution to my problem i just cant figure it out. A little help please.
troettger
Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:07 am
#2
AS a Master TKA I can spam specials without worrying about HAM costs if you get a doc buff (normally about 10-12k for 2.5 hours) and drink some good brandy (brandy give mind and the other mind ham's a plus of 450+ for about 30 mins). You have to watch the your Brandy and continue to drink it when your stomack allows or else you'll be fighting something and where your mind out easy if the brandy effects die. You can take 2 brandy on an empty stomach. Brandy normally costs around 6000 for about 16 or so with decent stats.
Again Your mind is your weakest so watch your stomach and drink more when you get a chance.
Dyraak_Sinh
Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:11 am
#3
To really get your mind going, get musician and dancer buffs, take 2 drinks from a bottle of brandy, and eat 2 canapes. If you're feeling saucy, take some muon. You could also power boost at this time, but I've heard rumors that it will clear out your entertainer buffs.
Cobra97
Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:22 am
#4
TraceJelSadow wrote:
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How is it that some players HAM bars stay so high while fighting high level mobs and i cant. I know that there is probably an easy solution to my problem i just cant figure it out. A little help please.
This was my exact question the other day. I've read post after post about people that run missions and spam unarmed spin 2 until everything is dead. I finally bought some canapes from a guildie and ran out. (I'm also a master doc, so buffs weren't a problem. And everyone has brandy, right?) So I ate two canapes and walked into a mess of Mokks. I spammed them with unarmed spin 2 without damaging my mind too much, and it worked out OK.
Canapes only last about 10 minutes (give or take), but it takes you 30 minutes to work it off. So, as my friends suggested, just eat one canape and then a second if you need it. This keeps lets you stay out and running missions.
But I still don't know how people spam specials over and over. Do you unequip your VK or something?
2Nemesis2
Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:44 am
#5
Funny I should see this post first thing this morning, as my buddy (Master WS) and I were just discussing some VKs that were experimented for HAM costs. I am going to try this out and see how it works. I think he said it was looking like 2.5 25-110 and 24/38/24 as the stats.
SkelloUK
Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:47 am
#6
Ahrisa is your best friend.......33 filling and last 40+ mins so 3 of them & 2 brandies will negate all Mind costs while spamming specials.........Try It ,go on,I bet u'll like it :-))
Skello
Gavvot
Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:02 am
#7
This guy probably maxed his secondary mind stats.
Also using HAM sliced light compo and VK.
You should also be aware that there is known bug with some characters (at least know by SOE) and that some character do have their mind that drop much faster than others.
Don't have alot of info on that, but a guy on my server had his mind constantly lowering fast, did some testing then contacted a CSR.
CSR said it was a known bug and they were 'working on it'.
Also using HAM sliced light compo and VK.
You should also be aware that there is known bug with some characters (at least know by SOE) and that some character do have their mind that drop much faster than others.
Don't have alot of info on that, but a guy on my server had his mind constantly lowering fast, did some testing then contacted a CSR.
CSR said it was a known bug and they were 'working on it'.
Message Edited by Gavvot on 06-09-2004 04:04 PM
EmbracerOfDarkness
Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:09 am
#8
Gavvot : "CSR said it was a known bug and they were 'working on it'."
They say that about everything, I swear those CSRs are scrips.
BloodMonk
Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:28 am
#9
One more time 
Step 1:
Stat migration: Any self respecting TKM should max out his mindstats, with me being Zabrak that means MFW 1000/500/900
Step 2: Food/spices: When you know you are going out, start popping one brandy and one ARISHA, good brandy lasts 45+m and gives over +400 on all mindstats appr. 49 filling, Arisha gives appr. +400 for 40+minutes. 33 filling.
When you start, pop another arisha and brandy.
This makes 1000/500/900 + 400/400/400 +400/400/400 + 0/400/0 + 0/400/0 = 1800/2100/1700 With room for another arisha or canape, and room for another brandy soon to follow.
Keep Muon an Thrusterhead in your inventory:
muon +500 on all stats, 10m, downtime 200s
Thrusterhead:: +600mind, +200 focus : 400s, downtime 133s
Why Thrusterhead? the 200 focus mightbe enoughto stop ham usage for heavy fighting (spamming UH3 for minutes), AND most importantly, the downer is much easier on the user.
Step:3 Pups which lower mind cost
Dancer/musician buffs are super too, I just tried to cover all but them
Clatters
Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:48 am
#10
Hi, here is a way to spam as many specials as you like without your HAM bar moving and without having to get encumb slices on your comp.
What you first have to do is stat migrate all your stats from health and action into mind, and i mean all of them. Max out your focus and willpower and put what ever remainder into mind. This way you have the highest mind strenght so the special will take the least from you, and the highest regeneration so that any mind you do use gets regened quick enough for it not to matter.
Once this migration is complete, go get your normal doc buffs 2-2.5k
Then get some brandy, i use 400 brandy but it lasts 40 minutes, so that when it runs out you can immediately take 2 more and never have to worry.
Next is the special part, find yourself a good food vendor and get hold of some ahrisa, this stuff is, to me the dogs nuts. It may only add to focus, but this is what you need as with a higher focus you will never lose any mind. The great thing about this is that you can take three at once, using this method you can get your focus way over 2.5k which is more than enough to spin ua3 away without any HAM loss what so ever.
Now you can spam any special you want as much as you like and it wont even affect you, i hope this helps, please tell me if it does.
Trying to help the community
Ramona_Garcia
Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:03 am
#11
For Mokks and such I would drop the VK and spam unarmed. I only use VKs against armored targets.
TravonLepen
Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:18 am
#12
Time for my 2 cents here.
As mentioned before, the real key is to have your stats migrated to nearly all mind, focus, and willpower. I am also a novice doc, so I needed the extra mind for heals. When you get your normal doctor buffs, although your mind bar will appear smaller, it isn't changing. Secondly, I use a good (+432) brandy, and canape. I will fill up on canape (usually 3-4 will do it, depends on the skill of the chef), and take 2 hits of brandy. But be aware of your stomach and the buff time of the food. The brandy lasts about 25 minutes or so for me, and the canapes about 11-12? can't remeber exactly. I am TKA 2/3/4/3 and I solo mutant rancor lair.
Forgot to add... I do have a set of armor sliced to 90% kinetic also, so that definitely helps : )
Travon Lepen
Tiimokana
Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:03 pm
#13
Answers so far have pretty much covered everything so I'll just do a complete breakdown of my mind stats when I step into a fight.
This is the math for my normal routine.
I'm Zabrak so natural mind stats = 1000/500/900.
Dancer Buff = 2050/500/900
Music Buff = 2050/1000/1800
BE Brandy x 2 = 2866/1816/2616
BE Ahrisa x 1 = 2866/2199/2616
BE Canape x 1 = 2866/2800/3217
TKM Power Boost = 3366/2800/3217
Music Buff = 2050/1000/1800
BE Brandy x 2 = 2866/1816/2616
BE Ahrisa x 1 = 2866/2199/2616
BE Canape x 1 = 2866/2800/3217
TKM Power Boost = 3366/2800/3217
I leave those last 33 pts of stomach food space open in case I need some other type of food depending on the situation. Muon is for emergency only and rarely do I use it.
Even if using a full set of my 80% unsliced comp armor and an out of the crate unsliced vk my mind bar doesn't move.
Hope this helped clear it up a little for ya.
Tiimokana Messiah
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