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I have a 133 1.6 speed VK

and a 169 2.1 Speed VK

which is better i has tested with both and i dont see tha tmuch differance. what do you think

speed is better?

Max damage is better?

Well speed seems to max at one hit per second anyway soI'd say go for the extra damage if you're already hitting that fast. Doesn't matter if I use a 2.7 speed VK or 1.8 as I still swing at exactly the same speed :-/

thanks for the tips. i didnt know it maxxed at a second

Er, I don't that is remotely accurate. I noticed an increase in speed going from 2.5 to 2.1. I now use 1.7 spd knucks. Speed is a constant, max damage is variant. You don't always hit for the absolute max, so over time speed will contribute to your DPS more than a higher max damage.

>>Er, I don't that is remotely accurate. I noticed an increase in speed going from 2.5 to 2.1.<<

But was your attack speed slower than one hit per second before that?

I've never been able to get faster than one hit per second and I know this for a fact because I always play with timestamps turned on. With master power it doesn't make any difference if I use 3.0 speed knucks or 1.6 speed - always one hit per second. Maybe I'm bugged (though others have reported the same thing)? Could you turn timestamp on tell me exactly how fast your attacks are? Thanks.

Sure, but how do I turn timestamping on?

Go to the wrench button and click on chat, then click on "timestamp on all messages".

Sorry, I'm at work and don't now what the exact name of the wrench button is off the top of my head

[Combat] 06:02:24 You start following a quenker.
[Combat] 06:02:32 a quenker hits you for 82 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:02:32 You swing at a quenker and hit for 242 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:33 You swing at a quenker and hit for 262 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:34 You swing at a quenker and hit for 275 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:34 a quenker hits you for 84 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:02:35 You swing at a quenker and hit for 292 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:36 a quenker hits you for 83 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:02:36 You swing at a quenker and hit for 222 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:37 You swing at a quenker and hit for 343 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:38 a quenker hits you for 81 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:02:38 You swing at a quenker and hit for 332 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:39 You swing at a quenker and hit for 329 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:40 a quenker hits you for 67 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:02:40 You swing at a quenker and hit for 326 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:41 You swing at a quenker and hit for 214 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:42 a quenker hits you for 86 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:02:42 You swing at a quenker and hit for 286 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:43 You swing at a quenker and hit for 326 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:44 You swing at a quenker and hit for 252 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:44 a quenker misses you!
[Combat] 06:02:45 You swing at a quenker and hit for 313 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:46 a quenker hits you for 75 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:02:46 You swing at a quenker and hit for 357 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:47 You swing at a quenker and hit for 223 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:48 a quenker hits you for 60 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:02:48 You swing at a quenker and hit for 294 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:49 You swing at a quenker and hit for 285 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:50 a quenker hits you for 83 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:02:50 You swing at a quenker and hit for 235 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:51 You swing at a quenker and hit for 361 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:52 a quenker hits you for 69 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:02:52 You swing at a quenker and hit for 241 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:53 You swing at a quenker and hit for 221 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:54 a quenker misses you!
[Combat] 06:02:54 You swing at a quenker and hit for 368 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:55 You swing at a quenker and hit for 354 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:56 a quenker misses you!
[Combat] 06:02:56 You swing at a quenker and hit for 260 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:57 You swing at a quenker and hit for 366 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:58 You swing at a quenker and hit for 241 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:02:58 a quenker hits you for 48 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:02:59 You swing at a quenker and hit for 330 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:03:00 a quenker hits you for 50 points of damage!
[Combat] 06:03:00 You swing at a quenker and hit for 237 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:03:01 You swing at a quenker and hit for 220 points of damage.
[Combat] 06:03:02 a quenker misses you!

Interesting. I wonder if it's merely a limitation of the logging system, or if all attacks truly cannot go under 1 second. If not, then slicing or even experimenting for speed is kind of pointless to a Master TK.

This weekend I purchased 2 knucklers. 1 was 40-171 2.6 another was 30-133 1.5 speed.

Of course I had an inventory poof and the 1.5 knucklers disappeared, so im using the 2.6 knucks.

Doing a ton of damage and im not noticing the hit delay on the 2.6.

As of now from the testing that i have done there is no noticable difference between my 1.7 and 2.2 spd VKs, i plan to do lots of testing next week when i have more time though.

As an aside, disregarding temporarily the debate over speed limitations, if you want to know which weapon is better:

[ (MinDamage + MaxDamage) /2 ] / Speed will give you an average damage per "speed".

Whichever is higher wins.

For normal swings the 1.0 second limitation might be a problem. Specials will probably be usable faster if they take longer than a second to recharge.

(Pure speculation as I haven't been focusing on my TKA, but perhaps worth testing.)