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Thread: Confirmed Innate Armor is Bugged

DEAneas
Wed May 11, 2005 2:03 pm
#1




First off I am MBrawler/MPike/TKM and 0/0/4/0 Medic with a set of 5160 Stormie Battle Armor from my pre CU Smuggler days.


I decided to test out the "Is Innate Armor better than Regular Armor" theory


With my current skills, standing completly naked and using no CoB I engaged a CL 79 Voritor Lizard. Here is what i found ...


Naked, No Weapon - The Voritor was hitting me for 199 damage each melee hit.

Naked, w/ Vibro Lance - The Voritor was hitting me for205 damage each melee hit.

Full Suit, No Weapon- The Voritor was hitting me for 111 damage each melee hit.


Full Suit, w/ Vibro Lance - The Voritor was hitting me for 114 damage each melee hit.


Huh ?! I thought innate armor wasn't effected by weilding other weapons. More to the point why am I getting hit harder wearing the armor? I thought Innate Armor was 6000? Im getting hit almost twice as hard !!


Also I hit Ctrl C to see if my stats had changed.


Naked - Melee Def was 245 and Ranged Def was 190.

Full Suit - Melee Def was 245 and Ranged Def was 190.


Naked w/ Vibro Lance- Melee Def was 235 and Ranged Def was 180.

Full Suit w/ Vibro Lance- Melee Def was 235 and Ranged Def was 180.


So, does this mean there ISapenalty when weilding a weapon?


Has anyone else tested this ? Or am I getting a bonus from my Stormie Armor that I don't know about?


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This post confirms that you have to equip then unequip a piece of armor PRIOR to any combat.

Otherwise Innate Armor will NOT FUNCTION

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Message Edited by DEAneas on 05-11-2005 10:45 PM

Message Edited by DEAneas on 05-12-2005 06:15 PM



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CrashNemesisII
Wed May 11, 2005 2:08 pm
#2

mankind can you confirm this mate?



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velocity-x
Wed May 11, 2005 2:10 pm
#3

I've tried this, and my innate armor works fine, better than my full suit of assault.



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Vander_Legion
Wed May 11, 2005 2:37 pm
#4

the reason you're melee/ranged defese went down when you wore the vibrolance is you get some unarmed defense w/ TK that doesnt work when you arent unarmed.



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DEAneas
Wed May 11, 2005 2:45 pm
#5






Vander_Legion wrote:

the reason you're melee/ranged defese went down when you wore the vibrolance is you get some unarmed defense w/ TK that doesnt work when you arent unarmed.






Now that I look a little harder I can see your right. I get a bonus to defense for being unarmed, called 'Unarmed Defense' strangly enough. Thanks Vander


But what about the damage difference with Innate Armor and Battle Armor? Seems the thread has changed point a little so I have changed the thread name.





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Fsmith010
Wed May 11, 2005 2:47 pm
#6

maybe you get hit for less with armor because possibly it's bugged and tka armor is stacking with regular armor?
sanmonroe
Wed May 11, 2005 4:59 pm
#7

Did you have the innate armour turned off bug?

Try testing again, but this time do the in armour first, then after you ahve been hit in the armour take it off and use TKM.

Apparently if you put on armour and then take it off without having been hit Innate does not turn back on.

Th



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SpunkyKuma
Wed May 11, 2005 5:15 pm
#8

TKM/MBrawler - Melee Def 245 and Ranged Def 190 & +75 unarmed defense = 320/265.

Pikeman/MBrawler - Melee Def 235 and Ranged Def 180 & +65 Polearm defense = 300/245.
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If I am doing this right, does the weapon defense really make that much of a difference?



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DEAneas
Thu May 12, 2005 9:32 am
#9






SpunkyKuma wrote:
TKM/MBrawler - Melee Def 245 and Ranged Def 190 & +75 unarmed defense = 320/265.

Pikeman/MBrawler - Melee Def 235 and Ranged Def 180 & +65 Polearm defense = 300/245.
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If I am doing this right, does the weapon defense really make that much of a difference?




Not sure on that one, but a good question



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DEAneas
Thu May 12, 2005 9:34 am
#10






sanmonroe wrote:
Did you have the innate armour turned off bug?

Try testing again, but this time do the in armour first, then after you ahve been hit in the armour take it off and use TKM.

Apparently if you put on armour and then take it off without having been hit Innate does not turn back on.

Th




Tested and confirmed


By first equipping a single piece of armor (In this case a chest plate) then unequipping it my Innate Armor kiced in and is working as intended.


Thanks Sanmonroe







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sanmonroe
Thu May 12, 2005 9:45 am
#11



DEAneas wrote:


sanmonroe wrote:
Did you have the innate armour turned off bug?

Try testing again, but this time do the in armour first, then after you ahve been hit in the armour take it off and use TKM.

Apparently if you put on armour and then take it off without having been hit Innate does not turn back on.

Th


Tested and confirmed
By first equipping a single piece of armor (In this case a chest plate) then unequipping it my Innate Armor kiced in and is working as intended.
Thanks Sanmonroe





Np. Maybe mankind can make a stiky about this bug until it is fixed since it is really a game breaker for TKMs. With no armour we are worthless.



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DEAneas
Thu May 12, 2005 10:19 am
#12

I edited the OP so people can see it. Not too much of an issue UNLESS you are pure TKM and you do not have the cert to equip/unequip a piece of armor.


I also tested this with an Ubese shirt and Mabari belt. Both these items are NOT consiidered armor


This may also be a good reason why lots of people are experiencing difficult fights. OnceI enabled Innate Armor I managed to solo 2 CL 81 Bol Pack Runners at the same time (Using a few Bacta shots of course :smileywink


I'll also be submitting a /bug ticket



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Zodiac-B
Thu May 12, 2005 4:43 pm
#13

so what are you getting hit for now? I'm getting for around 149-195 Unarmed w/o CoB and 55-68 with CoB (lvl 80-82 Pikets). Are these numbers similar to what you're getting now?

Message Edited by Zodiac-B on 05-12-2005 04:54 PM





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