Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: The TKA Problem

Skillmasternevi
Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:56 pm
#1

This is not a flame just my opnion but here is the most common posts


1. " Nerf TKA"

2. Reason why not to nerf tka"


that about sums it up dont you think.


This are both sides arguments


Anti TKA

1.The can kill me too fast

2. there are so many of them common devs nerf um

3. the tka are the only profession to bebeside commando


TKA


1. learn to play your profession

2. we are not your just a noob

3.thenchange professions stop complaining

4. leave us alone


this is the situation with few exceptions i belive every one is trying to argue only thier side and not looking at the other its true the tka are powerful we are on the winning side of a game the devs are balancing. since i am a Master doctor master tera kasi im a forced to be rekoned with. i belive that we should see that tka is one of the more powerful professions but the fact is it will be balanced i have held my tounge trough all the nerf post and cant take it anymore i proposethat we jsut satrt acting civil make a list of why you think tka should be nerfedand we will make the opposing list to counteract it. NOooooooooooooo


we do that all the time the fact is the devs get paid to do thier jobs thier on it trust them give your feedback not you complaints ans tka are just as guilty of this so common guys lets work togther to improve the game not to just whine at each otherbiwan:









Skillmasternevi
Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:57 pm
#2


This is not a flame just my opnion but here is the most common posts


1. " Nerf TKA"

2. Reason why not to nerf tka"


that about sums it up dont you think.


This are both sides arguments


Anti TKA

1.The can kill me too fast

2. there are so many of them common devs nerf um

3. the tka are the only profession to bebeside commando


TKA


1. learn to play your profession

2. we are not your just a noob

3.thenchange professions stop complaining

4. leave us alone


this is the situation with few exceptions i belive every one is trying to argue only thier side and not looking at the other its true the tka are powerful we are on the winning side of a game the devs are balancing. since i am a Master doctor master tera kasi im a forced to be rekoned with. i belive that we should see that tka is one of the more powerful professions but the fact is it will be balanced i have held my tounge trough all the nerf post and cant take it anymore i proposethat we jsut satrt acting civil make a list of why you think tka should be nerfedand we will make the opposing list to counteract it. NOooooooooooooo


we do that all the time the fact is the devs get paid to do thier jobs thier on it trust them give your feedback not you complaints ans tka are just as guilty of this so common guys lets work togther to improve the game not to just whine at each otherbiwan:









Jybisu
Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:58 pm
#3

Err if people we're smart and got some KD defense, they wouldn't whine as much




Shape and substance day by day will vanish.
Hair and teeth will gradually fall away.
Always from the days of old men has it been this way
And none born can escape this thing.
- Tai
DrPiezo
Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:32 pm
#4

So they have to build their whole template around defeating a skill that you get in one skill box?
FortunoFiasco
Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:40 pm
#5






DrPiezo wrote:

So they have to build their whole template around defeating a skill that you get in one skill box?







I can't believe how many thousands billions time we'll have to tell them to NOT stand still on their feet and run and kite us instead of waitingfor the kick in the head... And that if we hide behind a wall or break line of sight to avoid their fire : the situation is a standstill and the winner will be the smartest of the two, whatever the profession...





NN

" O O O o o T i i i n i i i i i i . . . "
DrPiezo
Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:00 pm
#6

What about other brawlers? Should they kite you too?


I don't think its the ranged professions that have a problem, but he other melees. They pay the same points but have nowhere near as many tricks and abilities.
64Bit
Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:36 pm
#7

We have almost no defense against kd, dizzy, stun or blimd ourselves. Much less than fencers or swordsmen. !@$%$ I was fighting a Gurneset and it put me on my back. That is one reason that I have posture change resist (down) added to my shirt.


Ya, I agree with Skillmasternevi and have had it also. I have mastered almost all combat professions except for commando and BH and TK is definately not the strongest nor does it do the most damage or have the most defense. It is just fun to play. Loved being a swordsman and mch also, but stayed with TK.


Think I will retire from the forums.




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Bria - retired
Chilastra - TKM - MD
exMCH,MScout,MMarksman,MBrawler


64Bit
Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:52 pm
#8

To DrPiezo: Swordsman can do 6k blast damage, Fencers do stun and Pikeman do electric. They all can get weapons that have DOT attacks as well. Even in the brawler section one and two handed weapons with medium ap are normal. They also have a posture change attack, bleeds and alot better dodge, CoB and counterattack. Not counting secondary skills mastered, TKM vs MFencer or MSwordsman is a pretty even match.


I will admit that the TK PB is a bonus and thatpikeman su*ks with the big negative to-hit. It was the only brawler prof. that I did not like mastering.



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Bria - retired
Chilastra - TKM - MD
exMCH,MScout,MMarksman,MBrawler


Cielago
Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:31 am
#9






DrPiezo wrote:

What about other brawlers? Should they kite you too?


I don't think its the ranged professions that have a problem, but he other melees. They pay the same points but have nowhere near as many tricks and abilities.






I invite you to have a look at the Swordman, Pikeman and Fencer defence versus KD, dizzy and other effects...and I don't mention CoB which is working fine for them.


I dont like to use this word but sorry : noob



Captain Cielago
_______________________________
"Hope clouds judgement"
"Each experience carries its own lesson"
Frank Herbert's Dune.



mega3113
Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:56 am
#10




So they have to build their whole template around defeating a skill that you get in one skill box?






They may want the extra KD defense to protect against:


-Carbineer Charge Shot

-Smuggler Low Blow

-BH forget what their KD move is

-etc


TKA is not the only class that has KD. In fact our KD is less powerful because we have to get within a limited range to use it. Learn what your talking about before you spout off. If you want to PvP your going to want high KD defense to protect against all the various KD attacks, not just the TKM attack.



Stormbilly
Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:43 am
#11

We're not even the only brawler profession with a knockdown. Heck someone with 1-handed 3 in the brawler tree can dizzy you and put you on your back with lunge 1. TKAs have terrible resist defenses, it's one of our weaknesses, the other is only being able to do kinetic damage and not having a bleed. People just need to be smarter when fighting a TKM instead of whining.



Wear some 70-80% kinetic resist armor.....that will be good for starters against a TKM. Then get better KD defense (this will help you against ALL of the many classes that have KDs). Then try going after a TKM. use tactics, and no whining on the boards is not a valid tactic against a TKM. (contrary to popular belief)


TKAs are not as all powerful as everyone makes them out to be.


farnargle
Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:26 pm
#12

if people fear us, i'd hate to hear their opinion on rifleman....or the unlimited kd capability of the carbineer. matter of fact, my guess is same people post the same complaints on every forum about all the profs except their own. best advice i can give to them all, it's a game...if you don't like the pvp in this game go back to medal of honor.
josfe
Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:40 pm
#13

The majority of the TKA nerf posts will die off as soon as the next patch comes out. Why? Simply because the skill mods will no longer be stacking. Once this happens you should see a rapid decline in nerf hearding. I honestly don't know what the heck the majority of the nerf criers are thinking anyways. We are 1 patch into a full combat revamp, it's absurd to think that a nerf call at this point is going to do any one any good.So to all those complaining.....instead of complaining in our forums spend time in your professions forums so you get the combat skills and power you desire in order for your profession to better compete with all of the other elite professions including TKA. Complaining about something being overpowered when the developers have announced the entire combat system is changing is like peeing into the wind.
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