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Cozumel

Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:39 pm

TKM's as they stand are powerful, but not overpowered.

Rifleman, at range, are also powerful, but not overpowered since they have no real defenses against melee.

That seems fair to me.

BUT, TKM+Rifleman skills = virtually invincible PvPer.

Ever duel or been in a PvP Battle? Who is standing last? The TKM+MRM. Why?

Look at the defenses-- instane range defenses (don't bother shooting at him), Mitigation 3, Ranged defense and accuracy around 180ish, full melee defeses, COB, plus self-powerup bringing HAM to 3.5k/2.5k/1.5k.

I don't think either class alone should be nerfed, but combined its insanly overpowered.

Heck, I need to be nerfed too, as I'm a defense stacker (Master Fencer+Master Pistoleer), and I think that combo is sickly overpowered as well... Sure I can take on 2, maybe 3 (spice for ham) single prof masters... but a TKM+MRM will utterly destroy me and my 5 buddys no problem.

garvin

Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:56 pm

#2

The combo of just TKM and Master Rifleman give a player +117 Ranged Defense and +102 Melee Defense...It also leaves them with 66 skill points remaining...

+117 Ranged defense and +102 Melee defense may seem like a lot, but there are several other combinations in game that can boost a player to this amount or more...it's actually how they spend that last 66 skill points that makes the difference...If they put some of it into Fencer they can boost these defenses up to +186 Ranged Defense and +171 Melee defense which is approaching godhood (especially when you further boost that with +25 of each via skill mod attachments)...

This is the reason why the dev's are capping cross promotion defenses...I've heard rumors the cap with be +125 of each...once that is done, the whole "over-powered" defenses idea will be null'd...and there is no reason to NERF them....all this combo will leave is an slightly above avg defense combo with nice melee range attacks and nice ranged attacks...a solid template strategy in my book...

People always forget to look at the remaining skill points and where they are invested...Like Commandos...they see someone running around killing everything with a Flame Thrower and think Commandos are overpowered...but they don't realize that that person may just be a Flame Tree Dabbler and is relying on dabbled defenses to boost their abilities...

Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie
Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith
ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

Onichi

Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:20 pm

#3

I 5 starred you Garvin for writing exactly what I was going to.. Hehe! Saved me some typing too

In the immortal words of the mighty Chewbacca "MUAAAAAAAARRRRRRrrrgh!"
Imperial Leiutenant

Official Rifleman's Motto: Of all the things i've lost, I miss my mind the most.
"If you can see it without a scope, it aint Sniping"

Vycor

Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:18 pm

#4

Don't forget the rifleman bug that gives rifleman 2.5x the melee defense. Otherwise very nicely put Garvin

TKM, Master Pikeman, Master Brawler

Onichi

Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:22 pm

#5

Vycor wrote:

Don't forget the rifleman bug that gives rifleman 2.5x the melee defense. Otherwise very nicely put Garvin

Thank the Force that's being fixed next publish!

In the immortal words of the mighty Chewbacca "MUAAAAAAAARRRRRRrrrgh!"
Imperial Leiutenant

Official Rifleman's Motto: Of all the things i've lost, I miss my mind the most.
"If you can see it without a scope, it aint Sniping"

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