Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Uhg .... so untrue
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Kyodor
Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:01 am
#1
WOWbeans wrote:
Everyone tkm's and people who've never even looked at the unarmed tree ..... all i hear is tkm is too strong tkm needs to be nerfed .... tkm this tkm that ..... it's not that great .... i mean in pvp it's unless unless your randomly facing someone without dizzykd resist and in pve i mean any of the other elite melee professions do just the same ... there are little differnces but i can tank with single mastery on any of them ...... i mean don't get me wrong i'd love it if they took out the crappy vk's and we became TRUELY UNARMED .... uhg ..... grrrrrr and those tkm's that think there uber strong better have some stun resist,some doc... and or a stacker .... cuase you'll get rocked... It is one of the most self supporting proffessions out there though.... and i think the whole nature of TKasi is Being one with yourself ... so i think this is correct .... but everyone that playes has there own strong opinions about things and no matter how right or wrong i am or they are they .. belive that there opinion is the best way in the world... and nothing will ever change that ... =P i
I dunno i'm just sik of people saying TKM needs to be nerfed
That post really hurts my eyes.
Firstly TKM is not useless in PvP - Its a lot more effective than people make it out to be.
PvE, other professions do NOT do the same. Fencer has weaker damage output, more defence. Pike has more damage, less defence. Ditto with Swordsman.
If people want to say TKM needs to be nerfed, I couldn't care less. Thats their opinion, you have yours, I have mine. We all need to respect each others opinions
GuidoBria
Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:20 am
#2
Kyodor wrote:
WOWbeans wrote:
Everyone tkm's and people who've never even looked at the unarmed tree ..... all i hear is tkm is too strong tkm needs to be nerfed .... tkm this tkm that ..... it's not that great .... i mean in pvp it's unless unless your randomly facing someone without dizzykd resist and in pve i mean any of the other elite melee professions do just the same ... there are little differnces but i can tank with single mastery on any of them ...... i mean don't get me wrong i'd love it if they took out the crappy vk's and we became TRUELY UNARMED .... uhg ..... grrrrrr and those tkm's that think there uber strong better have some stun resist,some doc... and or a stacker .... cuase you'll get rocked... It is one of the most self supporting proffessions out there though.... and i think the whole nature of TKasi is Being one with yourself ... so i think this is correct .... but everyone that playes has there own strong opinions about things and no matter how right or wrong i am or they are they .. belive that there opinion is the best way in the world... and nothing will ever change that ... =P i
I dunno i'm just sik of people saying TKM needs to be nerfed
That post really hurts my eyes.
Firstly TKM is not useless in PvP - Its a lot more effective than people make it out to be.
PvE, other professions do NOT do the same. Fencer has weaker damage output, more defence. Pike has more damage, less defence. Ditto with Swordsman.
If people want to say TKM needs to be nerfed, I couldn't care less. Thats their opinion, you have yours, I have mine. We all need to respect each others opinions
Unless of course they are wrong....
Anyways I think TKM is the most balanced profession as it is...and my favorite at that.
I'm the TKM/M-FENCER/4400 MEDIC template, because of this I duel w/o armor all the time, but if I don't duel w/ a VK w/ unarmed toughness...I get rocked, as it were.
So my opinion is that TKM does not need to be nerfed, most cries of, "NERF!! NERF IT AS IT IS TOO GOOD!!!" just come from someone who is angry about getting the proverbial smack laid down on them.
Then again, TKM's base abilities and stats do not need to be increased, if I can beat a master rifleman w/o armor I don't think we need more defense.
The only thing I think could be added to TKM to make it more, "neat" is the profession specific armor/clothing (robes for TKM) and a new knuckler, same stats as the VK but different damage.
WOWbeans
Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:24 pm
#3
Everyone tkm's and people who've never even looked at the unarmed tree ..... all i hear is tkm is too strong tkm needs to be nerfed .... tkm this tkm that ..... it's not that great .... i mean in pvp it's unless unless your randomly facing someone without dizzykd resist and in pve i mean any of the other elite melee professions do just the same ... there are little differnces but i can tank with single mastery on any of them ...... i mean don't get me wrong i'd love it if they took out the crappy vk's and we became TRUELY UNARMED .... uhg ..... grrrrrr and those tkm's that think there uber strong better have some stun resist,some doc... and or a stacker .... cuase you'll get rocked... It is one of the most self supporting proffessions out there though.... and i think the whole nature of TKasi is Being one with yourself ... so i think this is correct .... but everyone that playes has there own strong opinions about things and no matter how right or wrong i am or they are they .. belive that there opinion is the best way in the world... and nothing will ever change that ... =P i
I dunno i'm just sik of people saying TKM needs to be nerfed
Rantilous
Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:48 am
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I really Wouldnt worry about it the NERF Calls about TKM. TK IMHO is the only balanced proffesion in SWG, I wish the same balance to be applied to the rest of the proffesions.
Yoshi
TKM/Fencer
BowraRisingDawn
Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:43 pm
#5
that's just a bunch of crap. you aren't going to take out elders or groups of any size who know how to pvp, but TK is far from useless.
TK has the advantage of being the only melee profession that can drop all four state attacks (blind, stun, dizzy, and intimidate) individually without a "roll". Swordsmen do massive damage to the mind pool, for example, but in order to dizzy/kd someone, you have to spend time spamming 2hHit3 and hope you roll a dizzy. Same with pike. Stun is also, IMO, an underutilized attack, and blind is the best way to protect yourself from the swordsmen and riflemen.
Lets not forget also that our toughness, the highest of any melee class, is a natural barrier which reduces the damage we take even more than armor. The state defenses we have are pretty mediocre, but with fencer 0440 or even 0420, they can be effectively increased, and with pistols 0040 we could even fit mitigation 2 into a TKM template.
I have played every combat class in the game, and almost every stacker combination. I stick with TK because it allows me to help my group in pvp as a support character for the jedi, or if I am ungrouped, I can survive long enough to take down my opponents one by one. Its not as bad as you make it out to be, you just need to explore your options further.
I do agree, however, that TK does NOT need a rebalance (read:nerf) of any kind.
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