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Thread: Question about Dizzy/KD combo
if you hit your target with a KD move while they are on the ground it will immediatly cause them to stand.
this is of course in pve.
Tiku_Giammo wrote:
if you hit your target with a KD move while they are on the ground it will immediatly cause them to stand.
this is of course in pve.
And in PvP also. And yes, once you have successfully utilised KD1 or KD2, neither will knockdown again for another 30 seconds. You -could- keep spamming either for purely the damage, but it is an incredible waste of HAM to do so. Much better once performed to move onto damaging attacks and/or debuffs.
-Jherad
Edit: Forgot to mention that the brawler Lunge is also on a timer.
Message Edited by Jherad on 02-07-2004 01:41 AM
Nemain wrote:
Wouldn't it be a fair compromise and balance to take the easy combination of Dizzy and KD away from a single elite profession (any that have it) and spread it over two elite professions? So that if you want this deadly combination (I don't know how many elite classes have it, BH, TKA, Pistoleer?) you have to spend the skill points to get it.
I say this because yes, I have been destroyed by this combo many many times. And I notice that Rifleman have Dizzy, but no KD. Isn't that how such a deadly combination should be? Spread so thatyou either, need to spend the skill points to get it, or have a friend to help you (teamwork is what mmorpg's are all about.)
I know it's not an unbeatable combination, but you have to admit, it's pretty devastating, something like that shouldn't be as simple as getting a single elite profession. Call it a "nerf" I guess, but I don't want to take the possibility of it away, just make it more difficult to use. You'd need to switch weapons to do it.
BH, and TKA are the only 2 I'm aware of that have both.
Although alot of professions have some sort of posture change... and also have dizzy which can turn into the same thing.
It's really not that powerfull. You've obviously never had them, and you've obviously never taken a profession with defenses against them.
Yes it is devastating I don't disagree. But you also have to look at the 2 classes that get those particular moves and understand how they work.
BH's have 0 defenses. They can't miss or dodge from anything without taking skills in say pistoleer. They have no kd defenses, or dizzy defense or any defenses even worth mentioning. The totatility of they're power is in versatile ranged offensive combat.
TKA's cannot really kill something if it won't stand still. If a TKA cannot make you stand still. the TKA will probaby lose.
As far as BH's go you can't possibly require them to use more skill points than they do already. They have to master 2 professions before even getting Novice BH. And they in reality easily lose to someone far less invested into combat.
I'm not going to buy into that its anymore devastating than the attacks available to other professions. Every professions...... well most of them... have something that is devastating in they're arsenals.
pike has dizzy/kd also...but you mostly hit the surrounding air even at master... (I did pike because of my holo so give me a break)
sidenote.. tkm is also vulernable to the dizzy/kd combo..sad isn't it.
sinz
Well, come on now, Rifleman don't use posture change shots. But you're right, it can work the same way, if our shots weren't based on standing them UP out of cover. They're PVE shots.
I'm just putting stuff out there anyway. I'd just as soon see things balanced as try to make my classes uber. I'm one who requests a speed cap for rifleman in favor of damage. You should hear them **edit** about that one on the rifleman forums.
But yeah, you may be right, I can still just run away from you, they should give you something to restrain people.