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Thread: YOUR OWN WORST ENEMIES

jetman49
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:44 am
#1

JUST A HINT - YOU CAN LEARN FROM HISTORY


MCH'S USED TO BRAG ABOUT TAKING LAIRS AND CAVES BY THEMSELVES

COMMANDO'S BRAGGED ABOUT TAKING HUGE NUMBERS OF MOB'S BY THEMSELVES


AND NOW, MTK'S ARE BRAGGING ABOUT SOLOING KRAYTS, AND BULL RANCOR LAIRS...


BETWEEN YOUR/OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS (WELL DOCUMENTED) AND ALL THE OTHER PROFESSIONS GANGING UP ON YOU/US...YOU/WE WILL BE NERFED NEXT. THE DEV'S HAVE STATED THAT NO ONE PROFESSION SHOULD BE ALL-POWERFUL...LIKE YOUBRAG YOU ARE AT THIS TIME.


BEEN PLAYING SINCE JUNE, AND HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE. MY OTHER CHARACTER IS A MTK, AND I'M WORRIED.


DON'T FLAME ME FOR THE "ALL CAPS" ...IT'S THE LAPTOP KEYBOARD I BORROWED
KiIIgore
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:51 am
#2

I agree they could consider it, but really if an opponent knows how to fight he can beat us ...


As for soloing lairs .. Pikemen and fencers are just as good, its the 0 range bonuses that make us tough ...


A master rifleman can smoke us, but a lot of people dont know how to use their proffesions .... I have a friend thats a pikeman and him and I go toe to toe for 20 minutes ...


They cannot justify nerfing this proffesion, because a proper template stack can beat anything ...


And CMs are a joke, but they keep them ... I am a master DOC/TK ... and am pretty much untouchable by poison/disease/dizzy/fire/ etc. ... add some attachments .... you know the story


Dronayus
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:37 am
#3

Well let's be honest here, when people go ahead and take on a lair by themself, they sometimes more than likey are buffed. Even with powerboost in your arsenal can you go and lunge head on into any lair and reek havoc without a good buff and some medical skills to keep yourself alive. People are only as good as they prepare themselves for combat. I am talking about large big mobs, not killing poor huurtons on Dantoonie or Kaadu's on Naboo, of course you'll overpower them. But go into a lair of Mokks villagers on Dantoonie or hit the Tuskenfort and see how long you'll last solo, unbuffed and no medical skills and you might as well start decorating the closet cloning facinity cause you'll practically live there. We are only as good as our body is modifiied, TKA is great and all, and even Commado, but a single MTKA and a singleMCommado can't just walk up to a Krayt dragon unmodified and just killit solowith our attacks, come on your talking about a 300K ham creature here. As for CH, sure, they are basically a ranged profession since a MCH and just keep calling pet from his arsenal to attack while he/she sits back and sip Kool-aid. I just hate it when people complain "Ohh..TKA is too powerful, nerf them!" These are the people asking armorsmith "what does resisit mean?" and think Chitten armor is still the bomb. Knowing how to use your attacks takes time and paitence, should we be nerfed because we know how to handle ourselves in a PVP or PvE situation? Give me a break, for all the complainers, know how to use your skills and you'll be the best, there is no ultimate profession, just players who know how to frigging use their attacks.




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Laeren
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:39 am
#4


Post the CH nerf I was still soloing huge nests of stuff, including Krayts and Nightsisters, as a MCH/Pistoleer/Doctor. But everyone screamed how they were underpowered. *shrugs*


It's all in how you play your game, not the nerf-call-catering. If you know your stuff, you can solo as much as you want.

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KiIIgore
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:51 am
#5

Agreed, the best is getting some newb wearing that stupid lando calrisian helm, and ubese armor with master marksman and calls you a cheater ...


I love being a master DOC/TK soloing stuff is easy, but as a master doc, with 417brandy I am invincible as a novice brawler as my buffs are now 2400 on all 6 ... so its not the proffesion, its the user ...


A brain surgen with rusty tools, cant operate the same as a doc with a laser knife ! does he cheat .. NO .. he makes himself the best at what he does !


Gibblet
Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:34 pm
#6

I concur. The problem is two-fold:


First, people confuse getting enough XP to wear the master tag with mastering a profession. Last night I got trained TKM. Does that mean I have mastered TK? I think not. It only means a lot of poor animals have met their doom.


Second, people cruise the forum and see "Here's how to own profession X", read the post and say either, "Hey, I'm an X and this isn't fair" rather than "Interesting, how would I defeat someone trying that?" or "Cool, I want to own an X", then when it doesn't work cries NERF.


Frankly, given the fact that no one is required to fight anyone in this game, why worry about others. If you think they are more powerful and it is power you crave - play that profession, but please quit the whining.


I read where TK is overpowered but as a heavy swordsman I beat them much more often then I lose. Is swordsman overpowered then? No, as TKM I could already beat a heavy swordsman. Why? Because I understand my opponent! I know what he is likely to do and how to counter it because it is what I would do.


It's a game! Play it and don't worry that someone else (fully buffed) can take out a rancor lair while you can't. If it matters to you, do what you need to do in order to achieve your ends.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!



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- Ketinvik (former Master Marksman, former Master Bio-Engineer, former Wookiee - former Master Scout, Master Heavy Swordsman, former TKM, working on Fencer)

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Dronayus
Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:46 pm
#7




My experience to Master TKA was not an easy one. Going up the tree basically teaches you many ways on how to stay alive in combat. We all know TKA attacks are huge mind drains and the only way to combat such drains were mulon gold, taking the hit with downers leaving is vunarable.Now we get drunk off Brady and are very happy This is the same for every profession, special attacks take heavy ham cost, but as you go up a particular profession, you learn, through hunting mostly, how to combat this and stay alive, then we apply this to PvP, cause no one here is stupid enough to think they can whoop some arse with only novice TKA and no trees filled. Most of the complainers are the dabblers, these guys who went up rifleer just to get conceal shot to pick off people unseen or the pistoleers who go up the defence tree and wonder why with a KD def of 50 they still get knocked down by a TKA. Duh, we are melee, where is your melee defence? "Melee defence? I need that too?" That is the typical repsonce i get from these people and think that it is unfair a MTKA can whoops a Pistoler 0/0/4/0 in a fight. Combat is all about tactics and it's the lazy people that complain, those who want to go Master BH cause they think that the LLC is the king of all weapons. They forget one thing, a MBH have NO defences. None at all, there is no defence from dizzy, stun, blind or KD in their whole profession and when they face a TKA who may or may not be a Master TKA but has unarmed KD2 and knock the MBH flat on thier butts they cry nerf. What?! This is the idiotic complaints that lead the devs to go and tank professions, these under trained guys who are so pissed they were owned by a more skilled player and want nothing but thier profession either to be enhanced or that player's profession nerfed.


There's a reason why we have skill point, it's used to dip into other profession in a goal to make us all well rounded. And really, we can admit that MTKA's can be taken down. Our worse enemy is the ranged player since we are basically melee and we need to be pretty close to unleash our attacks, againts a ranged player we have to fight to get close enough to get within reach for our attacks to hit and land. Do we cry that we need to get a nerf that defys the law of physics to allow us to hit a player with an unarmed attack at 60 meters? That's ridiculous. What question the devs should ask these whiners is what in hell do thier combat templates look like. Cause if your a master marksman complaing your body hit shot 1 didn't send the TKA to the cloning facility after a few shots should be ingored. We can be defeated, much every other profession. So what we can mediate and heal our wounds. We only do this after combat cause who here actually sits down overt and mediates during combat? Gve me a break. People just need to start mastering their professions and watch thier defences and make sure your not vunarable to the most used attacks like KD, that'll help you last longer in combat instead of wishing we all lay down and die just to make you feel better that your a Pistoler, BH or Commado and you hate getting knocked flat on your arse cause you have no defences at all in your comat skill mods. Go train, learn and they come back and face us, till then i just hope the devs don't go crazy with the nerf button and hit us with a dumb nerf cause of these whinners.






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oliphontmon
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:50 pm
#8

chitin is the bomb. high kinetics with minimal ham, and its cheap too.
jetman49
Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:45 am
#9

Very well stated. Dronayus stated it well. I think many players think that gaining Master at anything means they have profected their profession. How many people have you seen Master something and then give it up becuz they weren't invulnerable? If you take the time to perfect a combat profession, you can be pretty effective. Not enough people do this.


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comandobob
Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:45 am
#10






JUST A HINT - YOU CAN LEARN FROM HISTORY


MCH'S USED TO BRAG ABOUT TAKING LAIRS AND CAVES BY THEMSELVES

COMMANDO'S BRAGGED ABOUT TAKING HUGE NUMBERS OF MOB'S BY THEMSELVES


AND NOW, MTK'S ARE BRAGGING ABOUT SOLOING KRAYTS, AND BULL RANCOR LAIRS...


BETWEEN YOUR/OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS (WELL DOCUMENTED) AND ALL THE OTHER PROFESSIONS GANGING UP ON YOU/US...YOU/WE WILL BE NERFED NEXT. THE DEV'S HAVE STATED THAT NO ONE PROFESSION SHOULD BE ALL-POWERFUL...LIKE YOUBRAG YOU ARE AT THIS TIME.


BEEN PLAYING SINCE JUNE, AND HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE. MY OTHER CHARACTER IS A MTK, AND I'M WORRIED.


DON'T FLAME ME FOR THE "ALL CAPS" ...IT'S THE LAPTOP KEYBOARD I BORROWED






I dont agree with you about bragging about soloing a lair as , look at ant forum for any combat profession and it is the same "what i soloed " as to TKM getting nerfed i dont think that will happen as we are working the way we are soposed to , we are not uber , since the new foods, 80% armours and buffs we are getting killed alot easier now .


As the DEV's are starting to get there act together and fix other profession in stead of nerfing them , when the combat balance hits us fully we will be the same as alway , But the other profession will Hopely get fixed .


You Will Alway GET Peeps That HATE TKM because thay get killed and thay think they are the uber profession and not anyone else , it is normaly those that cry Nerf Nerf , this is the sad fact about any online game Some peeps will always cry beacuse they got beaten





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KiIIgore
Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:32 am
#11

I have to point one more thing out, I have done 14 profs, as any cobat prof I have used, I can solo a lair ... ranged profs are actualy better because they can take a mission, range kill the lair, get paid, and leave .... do we cry nerf ? no, thats their prof.


I have been master TKA for 2 weeks now, and a master doc for months ... I am a great PvP TK because I know my doc skills, and made my doc my defence ...


If i am flamed by commando ... fire blanket


Bleeding ... first aid


poison ... heal


dizzied ... state heal


Its all in how serious you take your profession, I have a crafting Alt that just pays for my TKAs equipment, tapes, armor, etc .. .he is going to be a master chef/be so i can make my own food enhancements, am I a cheater, no, I am a professional that takes my professions seriously...


I actually, smoked a master swordsman/fencer yesterday because I have almost 79% stun protection, and he relied on a stun baton figuring I had no defences ... then called me a cheater for healing myself ....


Well I am a master doc for a reason, do I cry if I am poisoned by someone, no, its that profession ... people need to grow up and realise crying nerf fixes nothing, building a better character fixes it, don't figure at master marksman, you should beat anyone, its not gonna happen.


Ah well, thanks to everyone that is serious in the game, it makes PvP more fun :}


I actually like loosing sometimes, cause it makes me think of what i can fix


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