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Thread: Unarmed DPS? Help!
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OHMSS225
Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:16 pm
#1
I've heard that we're doing better damage without knucklers equiped.
Well, how do I figure out my dps if I don't have any equiped? I just picked up some of the new blaster fists (base: 216.07 mod: 359.25) and I'm trying to figure out if I would be better with or without them.
Thanks!
ObiJanks
Sun May 01, 2005 2:54 am
#2
You may hit for a lot more without knuckles but you will be hitting much more slowly (go figure!)
FM_Warblood
Sun May 01, 2005 5:33 am
#3
yea you hit slower but you dont use up your action pool. Plus if you use your attacks just right you can get ahit inalmost as fast as the other melee branchs. I like to use a vibro lance or ryyk sword till my action drains then i go bare fist till it recharges..it works out well
Chessack
Sun May 01, 2005 6:57 am
#4
ObiJanks wrote:You may hit for a lot more without knuckles but you will be hitting much more slowly (go figure!)
I did not seem to be hitting more slowly without the weaponry, and I know for a fact creatures went down faster when I had nothing than when I had something equipped.
C
Pale-Toraus
Sun May 01, 2005 7:51 am
#5
My observations have been this; Using a blasterfist does lower my overall damage output, and is useless against most creature mobs, but, the blasterfist's energy damage penetrates npc armor much better than bare fists.
So I only use my blasterfist against npc's and presumably there are creatures out there with kinetic armor as well, but until we can get more info on examineing mobs, it seems safest to go bare knuckled against creatures.
Chessack
Sun May 01, 2005 7:53 am
#6
Well after some testing, blaster fist lets my "general" recharge rate be much faster (that is, everything blanks out after you do a move). I call this the "blanket recharge", and with blaster fist as an MTK it was 1.5 seconds, vs. 3.2 or so without. So you are doing half damage but you can attack twice as fast... it probably comes out in the wash.
However, without the fist I never pay attention to my action bar. With it I drain action like nobody's business. So there's that to consider.
C
However, without the fist I never pay attention to my action bar. With it I drain action like nobody's business. So there's that to consider.
C
Chessack
Sun May 01, 2005 12:27 pm
#7
If you're a master and the numbers work like they do for me you will do better without them. I have a blaster-fist thing that tops out at 520 and it cuts my damage output by about 25% compared to no weapon at all.
Kind of sad. Glad my friend WS only charged me 10k for it. He could've charged a lot more, and I would've paid a lot more, assuming it would actually be worth equipping these things.
I don't mind if it doesn't do more damage -- if it did the same, so it was just giving us a second damage type to use in battle, I'm cool with that. But taking a 25% damage output hit for equipping the weapon?
I hope it's a bug, or we're missing something, because otherwise it's pathetic.
C
Kind of sad. Glad my friend WS only charged me 10k for it. He could've charged a lot more, and I would've paid a lot more, assuming it would actually be worth equipping these things.
I don't mind if it doesn't do more damage -- if it did the same, so it was just giving us a second damage type to use in battle, I'm cool with that. But taking a 25% damage output hit for equipping the weapon?
I hope it's a bug, or we're missing something, because otherwise it's pathetic.
C
littlem776
Sun May 01, 2005 9:17 pm
#8
This must bea joke from the devs, can we have this fixed. I used my 82 tissues on the blaster fists to make it pretty sick. But now when I use it I actually do less damage then with out. Come on help us out and get this fixed so we can actually hit something.
Curby
Sun May 01, 2005 11:43 pm
#9
It would be easier to judge fist damage relative to other weapons if we had our master cert. I seem unable to find Razor Knucklers on my server. How do we get these weapons aside from Test Center?
c-mot
Mon May 02, 2005 4:27 am
#10
With melee strike (brawler unarmed 2)i make nearly double the damage as with adv combo which is aMaster TK skill. i picked up Master Brawler as well - so i use Melee Assault, which gives around 3 times the damage i get from adv combo (additionally the bleeding DOTand the arealeg-sweep i picked up with Master Brawler from the 1h- andpikes-tree are nice too). Another nice feature from Master Brawler is the Ripostedefensive move (better defense + damage will be thrown back to the attackers) - especially when tanking more then one oponent.
Nails1
Mon May 02, 2005 12:30 pm
#11
Armor Break and Melee Strike From Master Brawler are your friend... I can get 800 and better barehanded
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