Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Game Developers as of Late... Is There Hope in the Galaxy? No.
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Bacardimus
Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:11 am
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I started this game a month ago, absolutely amazed - I have never seen a game so breath taking and eye invoking. A few weeks later I'm about to revoke my subscription because the developers of this game obviously don't know what they want and bit off more than they could chew.
If this game was for free I'd lend a helping hand, and do everything in my power to participate in attempts to make this a better game / community. Unfortunately it's not the game is 15 dollars a month - to all of you who just don't get it that means we've inflated MMORPG costs in the past few years over almost 50 percent. It may come to a point where we're paying 30 dollars a month, which I have no problem with it but god as my witness I'm not paying HALF THE RETAIL VALUE OF A GAME MONTHLY for "our biggest update yet" which essentially added little content and mostly nerf'd things that were JUST NERF'd. (I'm biasing the Teras Kasi I know but it's my class)
I just don't understand how in 3 weeks the developers decided "wow we made a mistake... not only should knockdown not hit everytime, it should cost 500 action points as well" would you THINK ABOUT THAT THE FIRST TIME? WOULDN"T YOU HAVE ENOUGH INTELLIGENCE TO ADDRESS THE FACT MELEERS NEED SOME BALANCING AND CREATIVE GENIUS TO COME PAR WITH CH'S and BH'S!? I mean in one hand the developers can address everything too powerful with the Teras Kasi easily and effectively but in the other they'er absolutely clueless as to how to balance and make this effective.
I sugguest you all play a game of StarCraft or Warcraft... and learn a little something called balance, not everyone wants ONE CLASS or ONE STYLE they want to know that whatever style they choose will be equally effective as another style.
You can say all you want about how hard it is to make slight changes in this game, how many lines of code there are, how many issues there are but I'll just reference you to Q3P0's post towards the Teras Kasi. Q3P0 I know you don't care who I am because you're counting the thousands of 15 dollar a month subscriptions right now but when you finish wiping your ass with cash heres a thought, have enough decency to at least ADDRESS WHY YOU FEEL CERTAIN CLASSES SHOULD BE THIS WAY, give us a clue about your artistic genius and the direction you want to take SWG stop blowing us off with lame ass "Sorry for the breverity but uhhh we have like uhh... 32 classes and stuff to work with"... let me parallel that with fast food "uhhh sorry we forgot the hamburger meat ON YOUR HAMBURGER THERE ARE 30 OTHER PEOPLE IN LINE" thats right I said f*cking HAMBURGER because that's how lame your responses were they were equivalent to a goddamn bun with lettuce... no sauce.
At 15 dollars a month I'm roughly paying a little under 1/2 (40 dollars at Wal-Mart right now) of the retail value of this game. That means I should get at least 1/2 of content or server stability per month right? Realisiticlly on a almost 5gig game it should be something like 1/100th of the content but EVEN at that rate we've seen really nothing. I know this game has just come out and there are so many things to be addressed (and hell the servers are pretty **edit** good, props there) BUT I JUST CANT STAND PLAYING A GAME for developers that don't know their Commando from their Teras Kasi, they just don't seem to care right now... to me it is such a slap in the face to NERF something and then severly NERF it again. You say you like things "harder" and the "challenge" well I agree thats fine and dandy but I don't like seeing 30 Master Teras Kasi who exploited bugs and got lucky, THIS GOES HAND IN HAND WITH ONLINE PLAY ITS ANOTHER LEVEL OF SUPPORT THAT IS NEEDED, ITS NOT A LUXURY THAT SWG "MAY" PROVIDE, IT NEEDS TO BECOME NECESSITY IN THE GAMING WORLD. If you can't develop a game properly in the coding stages TELL US, PUT A DISCLAIMER THAT YOUR TEAM CANT LEARN FROM PAST MMORPGS MISTAKES and we'll go buy World of Warcraft, no shirt off either of our backs.
You can play Teras Kasi all you want and have your gaming experience extremly altered for the better or worse at a developers whim month in and month out but I like keeping and working with what I have.
When I started this game my Teras Kasi was Steel, the developers didn't like that and made him Wood.... last night they cut my wood down and replaced it with a few Sticks, well the sticks broke and I'm not waiting for the Nerfing Contracters to attempt to fix this.
SWG raises the price of MMORPGS by five dollars, but they've failed to raise the standard of MMORPGS. I'm sorry I'm ignorant and can't see this from your prospective developers but I feel you're equally ignorant and won't step in the players shoes. Take time out of your "uber busy" programming lives and spend countless hours playing the same game we play so you can experience our hardships. This is only the beginning I can't imagine what happens when my poor little unarmed **edit** has to pay for each death and find his items.
I really wanted to find a Jedi too... with the brain power of SWG Developers they probably allowed the class to waste 100 players at a time since they're clearly biased as to the power of classes but fail to make disclaimers about it.
If I had see "Teras Kasi is more of a RolePlaying class, and like the name says... you're unarmed so chances are you're going to get shot and killed... you wont last long but it'll be a challenge" I would've choose something different... instead they portray the f*cking class as an equal enjoyable playing experience but failed to deliver.
Okay I'm going in circles and ranting a storm, I see both sides of the story but we're the ones forking out the cash and we're the ones who are going to get screwed if we don't expect developers to maintain a certain style of programming appeal. I am not going to live in A CORRUPT WORLD OF VIDEO GAMES WHERE COMPANIES DO WHATEVERY THEY CAN TO MAKE A DIME.. I've seen too many horrible movies - I won't allow it to cross over into our gaming world.
-CoLa
Feel free to express your opinions and such as well, just remember I'm not unaware of how hard the developers are working and how hard it is to make changes and how long it takes to balance games.... I just can't allow slackers in the world of "Fallout 2's" "StarCrafts" "Diablos".
Don't forget the most important part
40dollars buys you 4.55 gigs of gaming content.
15dollars bought you 22megs of nerfs and a **edit**LOAD of server stability.
Why can't my 15dollars buy even HARDER mobs HARDER planets OTHER CHALLENGES ways to get around nerfing a concept at one time was "valid" what made this concept "invalid"... I wish I had the answer but my 15 dollars only bought
"SORRY FOR THE BREVERITY OF THESE RESPONSES BUT WE DEVELOPERS AT SWG ARE MALNOURSHED UNDERPAID AND OVERWORKED SO ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO WRITE ACCURATE REPORTS FOR EACH CLASS"
I started this post 15 minutes ago.
In fifteen minutes I've probably written more than Q3P0 wrote to all 32 of the classes, had time to **edit** and make a sandwhich - eat that developers.
-CoLa @ Bloodfin
P.S. I'm going to be instant selling all of my gear (some neat stuff... 172 FWG5 Pistola and 134 1.8 Knucklers etc..) for 1 GOLD... on Datooine (Miner City or whatever it's called) on Bloodfin... please whoever reads/gets this first and is interested fly on down and buy my stuff up - can't beat the price.
I'll also give 10k (sorry it can't be more, I spent everything on slicing knuckler after knuckler) to anyone I see on Datooine in the next 20minutes before I log. I'd give my character away too Smuggler/Teras Kasi but it's a dead character anyway.
Enjoy the game, I know not everything is broken, and it will remain a great game it just isn't the place for me to support half assed developers.
If this game was for free I'd lend a helping hand, and do everything in my power to participate in attempts to make this a better game / community. Unfortunately it's not the game is 15 dollars a month - to all of you who just don't get it that means we've inflated MMORPG costs in the past few years over almost 50 percent. It may come to a point where we're paying 30 dollars a month, which I have no problem with it but god as my witness I'm not paying HALF THE RETAIL VALUE OF A GAME MONTHLY for "our biggest update yet" which essentially added little content and mostly nerf'd things that were JUST NERF'd. (I'm biasing the Teras Kasi I know but it's my class)
I just don't understand how in 3 weeks the developers decided "wow we made a mistake... not only should knockdown not hit everytime, it should cost 500 action points as well" would you THINK ABOUT THAT THE FIRST TIME? WOULDN"T YOU HAVE ENOUGH INTELLIGENCE TO ADDRESS THE FACT MELEERS NEED SOME BALANCING AND CREATIVE GENIUS TO COME PAR WITH CH'S and BH'S!? I mean in one hand the developers can address everything too powerful with the Teras Kasi easily and effectively but in the other they'er absolutely clueless as to how to balance and make this effective.
I sugguest you all play a game of StarCraft or Warcraft... and learn a little something called balance, not everyone wants ONE CLASS or ONE STYLE they want to know that whatever style they choose will be equally effective as another style.
You can say all you want about how hard it is to make slight changes in this game, how many lines of code there are, how many issues there are but I'll just reference you to Q3P0's post towards the Teras Kasi. Q3P0 I know you don't care who I am because you're counting the thousands of 15 dollar a month subscriptions right now but when you finish wiping your ass with cash heres a thought, have enough decency to at least ADDRESS WHY YOU FEEL CERTAIN CLASSES SHOULD BE THIS WAY, give us a clue about your artistic genius and the direction you want to take SWG stop blowing us off with lame ass "Sorry for the breverity but uhhh we have like uhh... 32 classes and stuff to work with"... let me parallel that with fast food "uhhh sorry we forgot the hamburger meat ON YOUR HAMBURGER THERE ARE 30 OTHER PEOPLE IN LINE" thats right I said f*cking HAMBURGER because that's how lame your responses were they were equivalent to a goddamn bun with lettuce... no sauce.
At 15 dollars a month I'm roughly paying a little under 1/2 (40 dollars at Wal-Mart right now) of the retail value of this game. That means I should get at least 1/2 of content or server stability per month right? Realisiticlly on a almost 5gig game it should be something like 1/100th of the content but EVEN at that rate we've seen really nothing. I know this game has just come out and there are so many things to be addressed (and hell the servers are pretty **edit** good, props there) BUT I JUST CANT STAND PLAYING A GAME for developers that don't know their Commando from their Teras Kasi, they just don't seem to care right now... to me it is such a slap in the face to NERF something and then severly NERF it again. You say you like things "harder" and the "challenge" well I agree thats fine and dandy but I don't like seeing 30 Master Teras Kasi who exploited bugs and got lucky, THIS GOES HAND IN HAND WITH ONLINE PLAY ITS ANOTHER LEVEL OF SUPPORT THAT IS NEEDED, ITS NOT A LUXURY THAT SWG "MAY" PROVIDE, IT NEEDS TO BECOME NECESSITY IN THE GAMING WORLD. If you can't develop a game properly in the coding stages TELL US, PUT A DISCLAIMER THAT YOUR TEAM CANT LEARN FROM PAST MMORPGS MISTAKES and we'll go buy World of Warcraft, no shirt off either of our backs.
You can play Teras Kasi all you want and have your gaming experience extremly altered for the better or worse at a developers whim month in and month out but I like keeping and working with what I have.
When I started this game my Teras Kasi was Steel, the developers didn't like that and made him Wood.... last night they cut my wood down and replaced it with a few Sticks, well the sticks broke and I'm not waiting for the Nerfing Contracters to attempt to fix this.
SWG raises the price of MMORPGS by five dollars, but they've failed to raise the standard of MMORPGS. I'm sorry I'm ignorant and can't see this from your prospective developers but I feel you're equally ignorant and won't step in the players shoes. Take time out of your "uber busy" programming lives and spend countless hours playing the same game we play so you can experience our hardships. This is only the beginning I can't imagine what happens when my poor little unarmed **edit** has to pay for each death and find his items.
I really wanted to find a Jedi too... with the brain power of SWG Developers they probably allowed the class to waste 100 players at a time since they're clearly biased as to the power of classes but fail to make disclaimers about it.
If I had see "Teras Kasi is more of a RolePlaying class, and like the name says... you're unarmed so chances are you're going to get shot and killed... you wont last long but it'll be a challenge" I would've choose something different... instead they portray the f*cking class as an equal enjoyable playing experience but failed to deliver.
Okay I'm going in circles and ranting a storm, I see both sides of the story but we're the ones forking out the cash and we're the ones who are going to get screwed if we don't expect developers to maintain a certain style of programming appeal. I am not going to live in A CORRUPT WORLD OF VIDEO GAMES WHERE COMPANIES DO WHATEVERY THEY CAN TO MAKE A DIME.. I've seen too many horrible movies - I won't allow it to cross over into our gaming world.
-CoLa
Feel free to express your opinions and such as well, just remember I'm not unaware of how hard the developers are working and how hard it is to make changes and how long it takes to balance games.... I just can't allow slackers in the world of "Fallout 2's" "StarCrafts" "Diablos".
Don't forget the most important part
40dollars buys you 4.55 gigs of gaming content.
15dollars bought you 22megs of nerfs and a **edit**LOAD of server stability.
Why can't my 15dollars buy even HARDER mobs HARDER planets OTHER CHALLENGES ways to get around nerfing a concept at one time was "valid" what made this concept "invalid"... I wish I had the answer but my 15 dollars only bought
"SORRY FOR THE BREVERITY OF THESE RESPONSES BUT WE DEVELOPERS AT SWG ARE MALNOURSHED UNDERPAID AND OVERWORKED SO ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO WRITE ACCURATE REPORTS FOR EACH CLASS"
I started this post 15 minutes ago.
In fifteen minutes I've probably written more than Q3P0 wrote to all 32 of the classes, had time to **edit** and make a sandwhich - eat that developers.
-CoLa @ Bloodfin
P.S. I'm going to be instant selling all of my gear (some neat stuff... 172 FWG5 Pistola and 134 1.8 Knucklers etc..) for 1 GOLD... on Datooine (Miner City or whatever it's called) on Bloodfin... please whoever reads/gets this first and is interested fly on down and buy my stuff up - can't beat the price.
I'll also give 10k (sorry it can't be more, I spent everything on slicing knuckler after knuckler) to anyone I see on Datooine in the next 20minutes before I log. I'd give my character away too Smuggler/Teras Kasi but it's a dead character anyway.
Enjoy the game, I know not everything is broken, and it will remain a great game it just isn't the place for me to support half assed developers.
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