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Thread: Why people cry nerf read before crying nerf

cairnsb
Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:25 am
#1


* as a side note I am a TKA master as well so I am posting this in the rifle and TKA forums


The reason why people cry nerf on TKA and rifle (and soon any class that targets the mind pool) is simple.


They don't understand the game!


People go out and buy composit armor (usual at 50% or lower resists to electric or kinetic)

They then get a doc to buff them, put there armor on and say "NOW I AM UBBER"


WRONG


The mind pool is the one pool that can not be healed fast (combat medic aside I am talking 1 on 1 PVP)

Sure you can take drugs and food, but you can't heal the mind pool constantly like you can health or action.

And the mind pool is typically the lowest pool in most charactors because the guns they use take action or health.


PVP (to my knowelge) has a 75% damage reduction.


So these people are used to getting shot for 150 damage.


The Rifleman will use a T21 or a Jawa ion rifle.

The TKA will use knockdown + dizzy + warcry to keep them on the ground (and vibroknuckles)...


The rifleman uses headshot3 (3x damage increase minus the 75% pvp = 2.3x damage)


The TKA uses knockdown combo (2x damage for being knocked down + 3x damage for UAH3 - 75% pvp = 4.3x damage)


So you can see - if I have not made it clear....


We are hitting the one pool (the mind pool) that con not bea healed.

And we are using armor peircing weapons (t21 and VK) to penitrate your armor.

And we are doing damage multipliers (specials).

So OF COURSE we are going to mess you up.


Point in case I was waiting on a shuttle and some random newb wants to duel.

he said something rude and challenges me.


I am not wearing armor

I am not buffed

I am holding a t21

I have "TKA Master" over my head


I look at him and examine his charactor....


He has mastered marksman and scout.

He has novice bounty hunter over his head.

He is buffed to the eyeballs on health and action (2500 ha)

He is wearing a full suit composit armor

He is holding a LLC

His mind pool is 200 out of 600 (and not regenerating fast)

He is standing 5m from me (omg can he be so dumb)


So I accept, the battle lasted all of 3 seconds and went something like this....


Me = KD + Warcry + Equip T21 + Headshot3

Him = begging me not to deathblow him.

(as a side not I could have easly used a vibroknuckles and used mind hit to waste him)


he then says he is taking a screen shot and sending it to CSR and reporting me of cheating.


So I take the time to explain the above to him and he said...


"ya right I am a bounty hunter I should have won"


I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair


DO NOT - i repeat- DO NOT

Duel someone that can target your mind pool UNLESS you bother to BUFF your mind pool.


DO NOT - i repeat- DO NOT

Duel an elite class (let alone two) when you are a beginner and expect to win.


This game is NOT based on your skill using a keyboard and mouse.

IN FACT

This game is 90% based on skill modifications and tactics

The other 10% seems to be simple luck


So before you cry nerf ...


USE YOUR BRAIN

Luskujun
Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:50 am
#2

AMEN!
farnargle
Fri Feb 13, 2004 7:50 am
#3

was nice reading
KOBALDONWANDERHOME
Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:50 am
#4

niiice post



Master Creature Handler - Teras Kasi Master
rawr!
Cakins7005
Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:13 pm
#5

God, you TKA's are so brain dead its pathetic. Rifleman are overpowered and they need to be speed capped and have a 2.5 X melee damage penalty. TKA needs lots of nerfs to be balanced with other melee classes.



Eti Vauspavim
Dark Jedi Templar
Imperial Pilot Ace
Soca
Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:31 pm
#6



Cakins7005 wrote:
God, you TKA's are so brain dead its pathetic. Rifleman are overpowered and they need to be speed capped and have a 2.5 X melee damage penalty. TKA needs lots of nerfs to be balanced with other melee classes.





From my experiences:

I would agree that rifleman speedcap is a good idea, if they implement a longer range, BUT i just played a master heavy swordsman, and they are INCREDIBLY better at PvE than a TKM could ever be. TKM has amazing defense(as they should), but I will say that in PvP i have beaten some Tk's and have been been by TK's. It really happened to be a little luck on whomever won.
I am currently playing a TK now, and will say that YES they are a powerful class, but MOST classes can be powerful if played smartly.

Soca
Osskti
Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:06 pm
#7






Cakins7005 wrote:
God, you TKA's are so brain dead its pathetic. Rifleman are overpowered and they need to be speed capped and have a 2.5 X melee damage penalty. TKA needs lots of nerfs to be balanced with other melee classes.







Ok toolbox, here's one for the cheap seats.


" GO PI$$ UP A ROPE!!!"


(did you get that)


Don't come here and flame TKAs because you suck!


Just answer me this;


What was the name of the TK who outright beat the tar outta you to make you so bitter, and why are you complaining about damage when your hammer does blast damage and you get a 20 sec warcry?


You should be mopping the floor with ppl. Obviously you're not. Thus the complaining and the flames. Look here loser, uninstall SWG and go back to Counter Strike or whatever PvP game you fell out of. Don't cry nerf on me because you can't put 2 and 2 together.


As for kicking the crap out of a TKA, here's how you do it. (I am so confident that you still will be unable to work any of this out that I am going to give you a play by play instruction).


1. Warcry (I believe you have a 40m range with this you schmuck!! And if you can't db a guy in 20 sec. then you're just plain old pathetic! I bet you usually lead with some uber hit instead.....wrong!)


2. Knockdown (kd of any type will do)


3. Intimidate (makes him weaker, improves your damage. 100Kcr says that you never use this)


4. Spam mind hit or 2hHeadhit (find what you can kill best with ad use it....P.S. He's still on the ground for 13 more seconds...that should give you 4 more specials of your choice)



This should about do it.


So anyhow, go cry elsewhere loser! I know carbiners and smugglers who beat the $hit outta TKs day in and day out!


As for other melee classes...don't get me started on the Fencer/Pistoleer/Smuggler template.


This is 2 threads you've peed all over.



BTW, I bow to theoriginal poster. Very nice thread.






Osskti

"Haden Blackman is RIGHT! Everyone is happy and there is no problem with the game's situation...I mean you're still paying to play right!?"
Asquiol
Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:23 pm
#8








Osskti wrote:


1. Warcry (I believe you have a 40m range with this you schmuck!! And if you can't db a guy in 20 sec. then you're just plain old pathetic! I bet you usually lead with some uber hit instead.....wrong!)






Just to clear it up, Warcry 1and 2 and Intimidate 1and 2have a 20m range, not 40m.


Totally agree with the rest of your post.







- Chris aka Elryck
Asquiol
Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:25 pm
#9

"So anyhow, go cry elsewhere loser! I know carbiners and smugglers who beat the $hit outta TKs day in and day out!"



Yep, exactly.Go talk to Detchi or Eriv or Liqueo or Shadow-Wulf (all on Tempest)


None of them areTK's and they consistently beat the crap out of us.



- Chris aka Elryck
real_noc
Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:30 pm
#10

Well I normally dont get into these types of pi$$ing contests but I recently (last night) mastered TKA. Now before some moron says that I dont know what im talking about I will let you know that I have been Master Heavy, Master Pike, and Master Brawler and plan to do fencer next. Ok TKA is a machine but rightly so.... the goal of the TKA was to keep jedi in check if they drifted to the "darkside". Hence the reason they should be an uber class. Now a little story for all of you (true one at that) not too long ago I an overt imperial and a cover rebel friend of mine went to the crystal caves to do a little farming. I at the time was a master heavy swordsman, there were some overt rebels inside so i asked my friend to send them a tell and ask if it was ok inside and we would just leave each other alone. The guy responds to my friend "sure no problem" so i proceed inside. All is fine and dandy the overt reb is in a group with 2 others he is a commando full buff composite armor, the other guy was a Master CH with a TMB at his side and I believe he was a pistoleer as well. 3rd guy... I forget what he was...

Anyway, the overt rebel master commando decides that he is grouped and he is feeling uber with his buddies. So he attacks me!!! Great!!!! A little 2handhit3 action on him and 1 hit he drops like a rock!!! buffed over 2500 in health with full composite and i hit him for 3k!!! So his buddy sends hits TMB.... well he lost his TMB becuz about3 MIndhit3's and his tmb is down for the count. Then I proceed to 2handhit3 the pistoleers mind 1 hit kill.....

The third guy finally gets me, between the bleeding and being attacked by 3+1 pets makes anyone go down. Regardless moral of the story is that as a TKM I highly doubt I would have been able to pull off that feat. Power hammer has medium AP and with a good hammer +powerup you can easily get a max damage of close to 800 base damage!!!

I have dealt 22k damage blows in PVE with Master Heavy Swordsman on nightsisters nonetheless. So please take your nerf TKA whines elsewhere and troll on someone elses boards thank you.

Ewaene Yta
Former Master Heavy Swordsman
Former Master Pikeman
Former Master Creature Handler
Former Master Brawler
Master Medic
Master Doctor
Master Teras Kasi
Flurry
_Flash_
Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:27 pm
#11






Cakins7005 wrote:
God, you TKA's are so brain dead its pathetic. Rifleman are overpowered and they need to be speed capped and have a 2.5 X melee damage penalty. TKA needs lots of nerfs to be balanced with other melee classes.





Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa lets get you a waaamburger and some french cries, then we can call the waaaambulance when you have a heart attack from being gay.


It aint our fault that you got beat up and lost your lunch money today, don't try to sound all big and bad comin to the forums and postin crap like this


Message Edited by _Flash_ on 02-14-2004 12:28 AM



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Asquiol
Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:27 am
#12

/applause to author


But, a BH -can- target your mind pool with Eyeshot. But I'm sure this mental midget eitherdidn't know that or didn't have it to begin with.


I gotta know though,did you DB him?



- Chris aka Elryck
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