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Thread: TK and Armors...

SCA
Sun May 30, 2004 5:17 pm
#1


Hello fellow Tk's!!


This might not be a new and original post, but here goes...


I would really like tk's to be more effective when not usin armors, the idea of physical and mental strenght is somewhat lacking in this game...




How often have u seen Bruce and Brandon Lee, Jet,Chanetc etc etc usin armors...

And if u read and watch martial arts books and docu films its all about finesse, killin ore cripplinure enemaz whit one swift strike ore a combo...


And the feelin of self reliance vs armors and (BUFFS, but thats another issue) and food/drinks...


So... i would like to go around not usin armors, more martial artist adn rpg feel..


The Jedis, when G lucas thought of them was a combo of myth and relighion, inner strenght and self reliance, many of those is from Buddhist, samurais, martialartsetc etc, atleast what i have heard... (stupid lookin force users runnin around whit nerfed comps and buffs)

I know there is clockes whit special protection comin fore jedis. But what about TK's??


So... tk's usin armors should get disadvantages, but get more powerfull not wearing them...


This is my thought's anyway...!!


i would like some ideas ore comments about this, em i the only one ore em i just whining???












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Idathi
Sun May 30, 2004 6:19 pm
#2
Yea, this is something I strongly agree with, the moves a TKA can pull off just look plain wrong in a huge suit of armour. I'd like to see armour carrying negatives to skill modifiers, say a composite armour chestplate gives -10 unarmed speed, just to give people an insentive to go unarmoured. And it would be nice to see people express themselves a little more in game, why buy clothes and go through the entire character design process if your going to be wearing the same armour as everyone else all the time!
RevannNeva
Sun May 30, 2004 9:20 pm
#3

hey personally i dont wear armor (sept for the helmet) and belive me it makes the feeling of truely owning a fully armored person like 10 times better.....but hey i normally advise people to wear the stuff cause i can dodge most attacks anyway....


Revann Neva


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Dravenite83
Sun May 30, 2004 10:27 pm
#4

Ok, here we go again... lol first I strongly advise people spell check before posting, I had quite a hard time figuring out if we were talking about ENEMIES or a bad doctors visit.


Secondly SCA, you say you watch documentaries about martial arts and mention Samurai. If this is the case I am sure that I need not point out that Samurai and Ronin in Japan more often than not wore suits of plate armor weighing over 100lbs. and while wearing this extremely heavy gear they could still execute their various unarmed manuevers effectively. As a matter of fact there was a special on the history channel or the discovery channel where modern day martial artists were trained to wear the traditional armor and then had full contact matches to demonstrate that it was possible for the samurai to be deadly even when restricted by armor. Also you forget technology makes armor less heavy. Modern body armor worn by swat and military personnel weigh much less than the body armor worn several hundred years ago. Hence, chances are if you have a society as advanced as the society in the Star Wars universe then it would stand to reason that they have found ways to make armor more effective, ie making it less cumbersome and lighter. Remember folks we are in a society where space travel across entire sections of space are considered a small feat. So would it be that hard to believe that they can make a lightweight durable material to craft armor from?


Psyklon2
Mon May 31, 2004 1:59 am
#5
Another thing that needs to be pointed out, Teras Kasi IS NOT a martial art, however it IS the mastery of Unarmed Combat and the Mastery of the FORCE within onself, I DO firmly believe that for a time being that maybe type ina command and damage is reduced greatly for a certain amount of time and force powers from FS npc's and jedi players be quite restricted on us. Read the books, TK's ARE the **edit**.



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SCA
Mon May 31, 2004 4:03 am
#6

Thanx fore u comments...


I know samurais used loads of armors, just somtn about the jedi's how they where tought of..


Forget about that the martialart in this game is called tk then. Lets call it somtn else and make it more unique... The feel of havin a template thatare more on body and spirit, self reliance etc etc, the thoughts of usin armors is against theyre beliefs...( so they get more powerfull not wearing armors and vice verca) cuz of the spirit part known as the force...


This is my toughts anyway, but if ppl like a martialatist wearin armors fine by me, i just thinks the Tk prof could be more interesting and unique...






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SCA
Mon May 31, 2004 4:05 am
#7
BTW sorry fore ENEMAZ ( just some slang..lol)



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Dravenite83
Mon May 31, 2004 9:54 am
#8
The point is ONLY jedi will be given things like the robes that act as armor. I dont know what books people are refering to but I can only seem to find a sentence or two regarding TK in the books. However they have been fleshed out greatly in the RPG systems and the video games based on the starwars universe, and NOWHERE have I ever seen it say that they didnt use armor. Anyone, I mean ANYONE can be taught to properly use armor. If people want to be up tight about that fact fine. I say just give it a cert, high end armor like RIS, Comp can only be worn if you have mastered an elite combat prof. That way the fighter-types get the better armor, and everyone else has to settle for a lesser armor do to lack of training.

All I can say is that if you dont want to wear armor, that is your choice. But dont ask the devs to nerf those that do. As it is ALL classes can wear armor, get buffs, eat food and then hunt pretty much anything aside from some of the more high end mobs. If you take armor from TK or make it hurt our profession by giving neg. mods then in short you are nerfing us. Think carefully before you ask for penalties to things like armor. Also, if we should get negs so should every other class. Have you every held out a 20lb wait at arms length and tried to remain steady? Well that is the equivalent of comp bracers. So ranged profs need to lose accuracy. Also it is harder to rapidly pull a trigger in bulky armored gloves so I guess they need a speed penalty too. Oh and forget about riflemen being able to aim approproately with the big helmet with the really narrow eye slit. See all of the arguements you made about TK not wearing armor can be made for every profession. Instead of removign the ability to use armor as it is now the Devs need to fix armor. Right now if you have a set of stun layered comp (70+ base, 39 stun) and a imperial PSG ( i have seen as high as 65 to stun) then you are a PvP and PvE god. They need to give other armors the ability to hit those same high numbers. Hence not everyone will wear comp. RIS armor is awesome however I have never seen anyone in game wearing it.
SCA
Mon May 31, 2004 1:08 pm
#9
Thanx fore gettin into armors like that


Hey its only my ideas and opinions...


Take rifleman fore instance: Let them have they own set of armors and oreclothings that are more suited fore what they are doin... Make a gilles suit ore somtn, give them some special powers whit it and take some away when they chose to wear full suits of high protection... Give every profs some special and unique items...


I know this is ahuge and outhere question!(but i like the idea of more unique players)


I dont want to make the TK's poorer, rather the oposite when not using armors...(but this is a big question whit loads of different meanings) belive me i dont wanna make the tk's of this game pooree...


Some jedis have yes in the old republic 1000yrs before episode 4 used armors, but from what i know they stopped usin it cuz it symbolised war and suffering... Jedi battle armors ore somtn... This is just what i have heard, and think i have read in some comic book


And 4000yrs before episode 4 (sith war era) the Jedi warriors used heavy assault armors...




The idea was to make the unarmed warriors of this game more unique... be sure


Guess i have to make a post in the dev section in this game about armors andprofss...

....this is gettin more of a armor thread...




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