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Thread: CoB doesnt work?

haydyn
Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:48 am
#1
Done a test last night with a jedi m8 to test the effectiveness of CoB and TK innate armour.

I done this test twice under different conditions.

Test 1. i was wearing RIS armour with 6.2k kinetic & Energy protection and no other mods.

Result: without CoB DMG 500

with Cob DMG 479


Test 2. was wearing TK innate armour and no other mods

Result: without CoB DMG 495

with CoBDMG 474


now my meleedefence is 190. i always believed CoB gave +500 Defence so improving my defence by over 200% which test proves doesnt work.

Also i was not any more difficult to hit said jedi hit me 3 times and missed once on all tests.


Funny thing is i was tanking pickets yesterday and without CoB i was getting hit for 110 with about 70 ish so it was effective then.


So what are the rules? Does it only work for PvE not PvP or only effective against kinetic and not energy DMG oris it the conclusion ive come to is that the whole TKA system is borked making a virtually useless profession at the moment which is sad cause i loved the prof?


Discuss..................................................



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Shin-Ryu
Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:00 am
#2




haydyn wrote:

Done a test last night with a jedi m8 to test the effectiveness of CoB and TK innate armour.

I done this test twice under different conditions.

Test 1. i was wearing RIS armour with 6.2k kinetic & Energy protection and no other mods.

Result: without CoB DMG 500

with Cob DMG 479


Test 2. was wearing TK innate armour and no other mods

Result: without CoB DMG 495

with CoBDMG 474


now my meleedefence is 190. i always believed CoB gave +500 Defence so improving my defence by over 200% which test proves doesnt work.

Also i was not any more difficult to hit said jedi hit me 3 times and missed once on all tests.


Funny thing is i was tanking pickets yesterday and without CoB i was getting hit for 110 with about 70 ish so it was effective then.


So what are the rules? Does it only work for PvE not PvP or only effective against kinetic and not energy DMG oris it the conclusion ive come to is that the whole TKA system is borked making a virtually useless profession at the moment which is sad cause i loved the prof?


Discuss..................................................





Ok.. I am not sure on this but here it goes.


I think COB makes you harder to hit.. I notice that when I have my COB on, lots of peeps miss MUCH more than when I don't have it on.. I know it says +500 defense but I think its "avoidance" rather than "toughness".. And of course when they do hit you, that when your innate armor kicks in.. My $0.02...





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Azdraik
Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:28 am
#3

Also the more defence you have over your opponents acc you essentially lower thier max damage.


If you have 750 more def then thier acc they will hit for the min on thier wpn no matter what thier max damage is. Once your defence starts pushing 1k people tend to miss you alot more (like 60% more)





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haydyn
Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:49 am
#4

tbh it would be nice to get some clarification on what CoB actually does as i really havent noticed that peeps miss me more than they should.


Does anyone really know what the exact purpose is +500 defence or +500 avoidance?


either way i havent noticed it work the way it has been described compared to pre-cu





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Morathai
Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:27 am
#5
you did your test against a jedi. Bad test bed to say the least.


Say your target has 200 acc and you have 180 defense. your attacker would be doing damage to you from his max damage. If your defense is then changed to 680 and he still has 200 then his damage would be dealt from the minimum damage category.


A jedi weapon has the smallest gap between minimum and maximum damage. example 500-600 damage as to say a laser rifle may have a 500-1000 damage.


Fighting a normal weapon weilder you would see a bigger difference in the damage before and after cob. Against a jedi its a very minor difference.


I also did a test on CoB against a regular melee prof and the benefits where aparent.




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haydyn
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:29 am
#6

thx for input m8


The reason i done the test with jedi was very simply when PvPing 9 times out of 10 im facing jedi and wanted to test the effectiveness of my template against them b4 considering as change.


also jedi is the ultimate test for me and tbh against other profs they dont do enough DMG to be challenging so i tested against jedi but i understand and it makes sense cause difference between min and max DMG aint much so thank you i can sleep now


But i can take a positive from this though his max DMG was 670 so i guess he was hitting me for min so i suppose this means my defence rocks


Message Edited by haydyn on 09-27-2005 03:30 PM



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Gaabreal
Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:12 am
#7

its working for me, im grinding a new toon current lvl is 43, was on Lok last night and i was able to tank a giant kimo, everyone else in the grp had died and had to clone, i was still tanking it when they all came back, then we killed it.


I did notice when CoB dropped i took big chunks of damage.





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mOnEYl3aGZ
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:35 pm
#8
it works
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