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belder
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:36 am
#1

i recently did a retemp to master rifles/mcm/pistoleer 4x13 , and let me tell ya im getting my arse whopped. I

havent won a single duel, against melle that is, can own most ranged i used to be

tkm/mpike/doc 4xxx, and at that temp i could defeat most ranged, and tie(yes go on for 40 mins and no winner)

most melee, ok ill stop my jawing and get to the question , i currently see no reason to stay this temp, and

im planing tkm/mdoc, should i go with m doc? or should i invest those SP in a melee tree? and is so, which

tree(s) should i invest them into?

Thanks guys
ohh and girls (Lt puts his cup on)

Message Edited by belder on 09-12-2005 03:45 AM



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haydyn
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:51 am
#2

what for PvP?


if so ive tried a few variations ive had the triple mastery but now in the CU heals are a must.


so in respect of this if u want melee/healing combo go TKM/MCM they are tough to beat but must admit my current template i havent lost a duel yet jedi/ranged or otherwise


TKM/Swordsxx34/Fencerx4x4/Doc4xx4


Basically you get all the TKM mods, Advanced AB and critical strike from swords, Cripple and binding strike from fencer plus 15m lunge for the ranged guys and 1300 heals and buffs from Doc plus my melee defence is 310 without food or cob and 277 Ranged


Also get a KoK slice it 2% speed, 3%critical chance and 8%dmg and pup it with durable lathes if u can afford to. My modded DPS is 840 with this setup


Hope it helps





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Mansun
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:36 am
#3


If you want to have a pure PvP template, go for TKM/MCM... this template will, with some skill, make you near-unbeatable in 1 vs. 1 PvP / duels and make you a SUPER support char in any PvP group.. best all around PvP template exept Jedi.. nuff said


for PvE id go TKM/MPike/doc4xxx or TKM/Mswords/doc4xxx



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-JustaPlaya-
Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:15 am
#4

First of all haydyn where are you getting your extra points?


you can not be that temp as there are not enough points to do it, I've checked a few times



You can have 4 tier 4 lines and a tier 3, NOT 5 tier 4's and a tier 3, just not enough points, probably was a typo, just want to make sure



belder
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:09 pm
#5


haydyn wrote:

what for PvP?

if so ive tried a few variations ive had the triple mastery but now in the CU heals are a must.

so in respect of this if u want melee/healing combo go TKM/MCM they are tough to beat but must admit my current template i havent lost a duel yet jedi/ranged or otherwise

TKM/Swordsxx34/Fencerx4x4/Doc4xx4

Basically you get all the TKM mods, Advanced AB and critical strike from swords, Cripple and binding strike from fencer plus 15m lunge for the ranged guys and 1300 heals and buffs from Doc plus my melee defence is 310 without food or cob and 277 Ranged

Also get a KoK slice it 2% speed, 3%critical chance and 8%dmg and pup it with durable lathes if u can afford to. My modded DPS is 840 with this setup

Hope it helps






Thanks man, and everyone, this is exactly waht i was looking for , i guess ill start my retemp tonight even though i wont be getting buffs, i can always just head to lok lol, always afk ones there.

Message Edited by belder on 09-12-2005 01:13 PM



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Nakazado
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:33 pm
#6

TKM/MCM is great, tons of fun... one of my favorite 1v1 temps =)... I had a temp similar to this preCU which was also pretty sick... I'd say go with it if you find MCM appealing. Or, like Iijin said, there are a few dabbler temps out there (but you usuallyneed somepricey equipment to get it towork).
belder
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:58 pm
#7

well i am currently mcm, and truthfully, i dont see all the hype, i mean i know the debuffs and dots are nice, after that initial 20 second paraylize, i have a really hard time keeping my health up, getting hit for 700s,1ks,ect. I liked teh temp mentioned eariler becasue it will allow me to acutaly fight, and not always foucous on keeping my health bar up, which CoB would help, but that melle defence i gain also helps a ton. Ill most likely get a full set of melee/ranged def/unarmed damage clothes and go with no knuckles , cant afford adk atm.



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Sneev
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:32 pm
#8

I have been told of the whole diminishing returns thing on defense, but I am stil tempted to try:

TKM/Fencer4040/Pike0440/Sword0040/Mbrawler/Medic0020

That should give:
245 Melee Defense
75 Unarmed Defense (I used Sliced Knuckles of Katarn)
+100 Defense from food (whichever one it is, I can't remember)
+25 Defense from CAs (when I can afford them)
+500 from COB
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945 Melee defense



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Azdraik
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:28 pm
#9

the question is will you be lv 80?



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iijin
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:33 am
#10

hahaha! Wow I was MCM / TKM 3 months ago and now I see so many people going with this template, back then everyone was doing the ol TKM / Swords / Doc mix and I even had a few people critisize my "ranged / melee" template seeing as it required the Ranged Support tree.


With TKM as your only melee professionyou will have little to no offense, but you will be able to last and last and usually outlast everything else, I usually would beat Jedi just because they ran out of force. You will be a great support character with many different options, you main role on the battlefield will be healing applying Dots from afar andapplying debuffs, never attacking one character but rather running through dotting and debuffing everyone you can until someone engages you. You will sorta be a crowd control in a way.


If you can enjoy being a support character this template is great fun! 1 vs 1 duels the only people that gave me real trouble were TKM / Docs and I could usually nutralize them with traumatize. If you are looking for a run around burst damage killer template don't bother, you will be disappointed...


I recently changed my template a little and sacrificed a little CM for a little more melee and 5 points off my CL the damage is amazing in comparison to my old template...so dabble....dont be afraid of being a CL78 or 73, there are alot of possibilities out there.



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belder
Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:47 am
#11

yes he will ddi on character builder

Message Edited by belder on 09-13-2005 03:47 AM



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belder
Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:53 am
#12

i looked into tkm/fencerxx4x/swordsmanxx44/doc 4xx4, looks extreamly promising.



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haydyn
Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:48 am
#13






-JustaPlaya- wrote:

First of all haydyn where are you getting your extra points?


you can not be that temp as there are not enough points to do it, I've checked a few times



You can have 4 tier 4 lines and a tier 3, NOT 5 tier 4's and a tier 3, just not enough points, probably was a typo, just want to make sure













-JustaPlaya- wrote:

First of all haydyn where are you getting your extra points?


you can not be that temp as there are not enough points to do it, I've checked a few times



You can have 4 tier 4 lines and a tier 3, NOT 5 tier 4's and a tier 3, just not enough points, probably was a typo, just want to make sure








yep was a typo doc 4xxx not doc 4xx4


sorry if it was misleading but this leaves u with 1 SP spare





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