Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: What compliments TK better?
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meediummshoww
Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:26 am
#1
Pistoleer or Rifleman.
Mainly looking to enter high lvl dungeons such as DWB and CCV, some light PvP, but this is focus is PvE.
TravonLepen
Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:32 am
#2
Rifleman. Pistoleer have a lack of AP weapons, but good defense vs. States and added dodge, so it's really up to you, but I'd say rifleman.
meediummshoww
Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:46 am
#3
TravonLepen wrote:
Rifleman. Pistoleer have a lack of AP weapons, but good defense vs. States and added dodge, so it's really up to you, but I'd say rifleman.
that's about where I'm at. Tossed up between the damage potential of rifleman and the defense bonuses of pistoleer. Also, I like the lower penalties for close range with pistoleer.
Vurtorax
Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:25 am
#4
I'd pick Rifleman hands down. The defenses from pistoleer are good, but when it comes down to the line they aren't gonna save you. As a former pistoleer, I can tell you that it is completely worthless in PvP and high end PvE. Rifleman will let you use the Jaawa Ion Rifle to cut through armor in PvP and the T-21 is arguably the best weapon for PvE and the only weapon that is AP3.
With Pistoleer / TKM you will have:
Def. vs. KD - 70
Def. vs. Blind - 50
Def. vs. Stun - 55
Def. vs. Dizzy - 45
Def. vs. Pos. Change - 50
Melee Def. - 107
Ranged Def. - 52
With Rifleman / TKM you will have:
Def. vs. KD - 20
Def. vs. Blind - 20
Def. vs. Stun- 25
Def. vs. Dizzy - 15
Def. vs. Pos. Change - 60
Melee Def. - 102
Ranged Def. - 117
As you can see the Def. vs. ?? is better w/Pistoleer, but ultimately you are still gonna be Stun/Dizzy/Blind...it'll just take a few more tries for your opponent to make them stick. You also have very low Ranged Defense, which is one of the biggest problems here. You do have +105 Dodge which is good for PvE, but in PvP it's pretty useless against anyone that can intimidate you.
As a Rifleman you will get hit less and less by ranged attacks because of your high ranged defense and that can't be stopped with intimidate or anything. That more than makes up for the lack of Defense vs. ?? in my opinion. And again, the T-21 is an uber weapon for PvE.
Vurtorax
Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:27 am
#5
Correction....T-21 is the only non-consumable weapon that is AP3, Sorry.
Utess
Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:33 am
#6
If this is mainly for high level dungeons, then defintiely go rifles. The defensive bonuses of pistoleer are nice,but high level mobs in those dungeons have such powerful to hit bonuses that you will just get hit anyway. Really, at high PvE levels, the only defensive bonus that has a significant impact is toughness.
So, knowing that, you are better off with rifles since offensively you will be very effective in those dungeons.
Now, if this were mostly a pure PvP build, I might say pistoleer since the defense bonuses *are* nice in that situation. But for high level PvE and some PvP? Rifles are the better choice at the moment.
Atama
Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:28 pm
#7
It also depends on what you're willing to put into it.
If you only have enough skill points for a single line, take pistoleer. You can take the techniques line and get some great defenses. If you're choosing between mastering one or the other, rifleman is a better choice.
If you only have enough skill points for a single line, take pistoleer. You can take the techniques line and get some great defenses. If you're choosing between mastering one or the other, rifleman is a better choice.
BigZak
Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:33 pm
#8
Triple threat -
Master Smuggler- feign death, panic shot
Master Pistoleer- defense & pistol specials with MS is awesome
TKA- melee and selfhealing
this the template most loved by Smugglers
Master Smuggler- feign death, panic shot
Master Pistoleer- defense & pistol specials with MS is awesome
TKA- melee and selfhealing
this the template most loved by Smugglers
Mitsew
Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:30 pm
#9
I dont know aircake with master pistols you dont get hit alot in geo
DukeRith
Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:54 pm
#10
id have to say rifleman, with the pistol tech tree for the defences. and alittle of medic.
meediummshoww
Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:06 am
#11
Thanks for the replies guys.
The purpose is mainly for the high lvl pve dungeons. It seems like a resounding rifleman and after seeing the breakdown, I understand why.
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