Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: TKA's and pistol twirling...
Just my opinion here...
The only NEEDS that TKA's have now are:
-Give Meditation a +HAM regeneration rate along with the wound healing component.
- Give ALL brawlers a movement increase. (No, NOT like exploration) It should have nothing to do with terrain. I'm talking about a flat accros-the-board-speed-increase.
Don't get me wrong, I think the other stuffwould be nice to have. However, IMHO, our true needs, NEED to be fixed, before we start asking for anything else. They increased damage. Good. Other fixes are on the way, (I'll reserve judgement until I've see them)
I do not wish to offend anyone but I never expected TKAs to be an "uber" class. All I ever wanted was for it to be a viable class. I'm starting tosee all of these ideas all the time here on the boards about adding stuff to our class but it's most of them are not about getting the real problems fixed. Thunder has been doing an awsome job,but we are not getting behind him and pulling for things to happen. **edit**, we need to help out the other melee classes with the speed increase as well. Some of them are talking about it but if we stand as a community, it'll happen. If we don't? Who knows. Before we worry aboutthe icing on the cake, we need to put the eggs in. I'm probably breaking a few eggs right now. So be it. I have a lot more to say but my wife is already in bed so I have to go. Hopefully you gentlemen, and of course ladies, will agree with me.
Before you get mad and start flaming me, stop. The only way you should be offended by this post is if YOU are guilty. Remember when the pistoleers started asking for "pistol twirling"?We can still be kited to death by any ranged user, no matter what his/herskill level, so long as said user has the intellectual fortitude to stay out of our range.
Knife to a gunfight, ect, I've heard it all before. Did you know that there is no such thing as an AT-ST, or a Krayt Dragon?Take your gun and fightJet Li, I hear he's a Taras Kasi, punk!
Telak wrote:
And I STILL say a martial arts master kicking someone in the nuts is going to hurt someone more then shooting em with a crappy gun.
True 'dat! About the gun-twirling thing, TKA's are asking for cool flip-up moves and different meditation positions as well...
what would make dabblers/prereqs in the brawler prof (commando/smuggler come to mind) not get the speed increase, wouldnt that defat the purpose?
are you saying just using certain weapons gives you? speed increase wont change the fact that a gun can shoot you from far away.
Oh, and about the aiming thing; believe me, I'm a 1/2/2/1 pistoleer, with some nice aiming bonusses, and a 4/4/4/3 scout (creature to hit bonus). I miss about 1/2 of my shots while running and not in ideal range.
I even read about master pistoleers who are missing. Believe me, our aim is nerfed a week ago.
If you're missing more than 20% of your shots as a master pistoleer you're using the wrong gun. Putting a scope on gun makes a huge difference that most ranged weapon users have not discovered.
"what would make dabblers/prereqs in the brawler prof (commando/smuggler come to mind) not getthe speed increase, wouldnt that defat the purpose?
are you saying just using certain weapons gives you? speed increase wont change the fact that a gun can shoot you from far away."
Make it work like the Toughness skills. The speed increase only applies whena swordsman has his sword equipped, we are unarmed, ect.
Also, I was thinking that the movement increase should scale up gradually, maxing out at Master. That would at least keep the top level benefits from being open to "dabblers"
You are right about guns still having range. No, it wouldn't fix everything. Yes, we could still be bled to death. However, we would have more options available then we have now. We would at least have a chance of catching someone and, just as importantly, we would have a chance of getting away.
All it does is make us viable. That's the beauty of this solution, it doesn't make our class "uber", it does make us more balanced.
"... I mean it's insane how much they still hit even while running. If you are running aiming a rifle over your shoulder..unless you are an adroid with perfect aim you shouldn't be able to hit someone that much while running."
Even though I agree that it is ludicrous that a person should be able to hit something while spun around like a contortionist and running at full speed--in a direction they are not even looking in--all while wearing full composite armor .... I'm more concerned about special moves at the moment.
If they plan to add some sort of defensive bonuses to the TKA profession, kiting should become less of a problem. But only if they do something about the use of special moves. Yes, I think it's insane that pistoleers, bounty hunters, etc.can even hit us at all while running. I think it's even more insane, though, when you look at your combat window after the battle and see that you've been nailed ten times with something like Eye Shot. So, not only can they hit me repeatedly--but hit me in specific/vulnerable locations too, with little or no problems. The use of certain special moves while running seem a bit absurd. (Yes, I know eye shot may be modified ... so that it becomes less of the "I'm-a-total-skil-less-noob" special move of choice that it is now. But I'll reserve my opinions until I see what the devs come up with there.)
Pistoleers talk about the 'nerfing' they've received with regard to shooting/running. I'm also a pistoleer/smuggler, and I just don't see this at all. I can still solo more effectively with just a pistol. I can still engage in PvP more effectively with just a pistol. I can stillexperieceover 80% more of the combat content in this game solely because I can use a pistol while running at full speed.
I never asked to nerf another class. I asked for a movement increase for all brawlers and a meditation+HAM regenbenefit for Taras Kasi. I don't want ANYONE to be nerfed. I just wantall brawlers in general and the TKA class specifically to get fixed.
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Please refrain from anyfurther NERF comments. Let's try to build support from other classes, not threaten them.