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Thread: TKM VS Fencer? How do you beat a Fencer?

melanoid
Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:54 pm
#1

Im currently a TKM, but alot of melee players are going fencer. When you TKM's duel a fencer what tactics do you use? Keep in mind the average fencer who pvps has 70-90% kenetic protection. Just want some feed back from people who have defeated Master Fencers.



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JeffIncredible
Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:10 pm
#2

/burstrun



I USED TO take Defense Stacker 2....do you?

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iseinip
Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:52 pm
#3

master a ranged skill with a stun weapon such as pistoleer if you want good defense or rifleman if you want good ranged offense.


Then you hope you can land something to get him on his back so you can use your stun weapon to destroy his HAM pools. I'm a TKM/Master pistoleer and i can usually incap someone who is just a master fencer but if they stack to get better defenses then i'm screwed.


If you are just TKM and going against a fencer then i suggest burst run or have your speeder next to you so you can get away as fast as you can.



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hampton_hamster
Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:48 pm
#4

lol i do master fencers in al the time. master brawler helps alot. intim 1 and 2. stun blind dizzy then kd til they fall and spam headhit. i have stun armor double layered on all peices as well



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Ciirybeccaskyr
Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:46 pm
#5

intimidate and stun negate most of fencers defences.



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Jambomango
Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:55 pm
#6

well ive always found fencers to be interesting, but i did beat a fully buffed master fencer with comp, when i was unbuffed, unarmoured, it was certainly lucky that i made contact, but my tips would be good use of intimidate, to minimise the dmg they're gonna make on u, and useing head hit is my most effective way of winning pvp, if u do make a hit, there's no way that they can heal it, unlike using hit3, where u usually hit the health, so they just use a stim b, and ur back to square 1.



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JEAUX_ZUF
Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:22 pm
#7

(you will need FoW)


headhit till he incaps you, FoW then finish it





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hampton_hamster
Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:22 pm
#8

lol and if the fencer uses BE dodge chance increase food u r screwed. lol i dueld a m fencer with dodge attachments to make him cap. he was also tk but didnt use any of it at all. pooped dodge food and i didnt hit him one. took him 10 min to kill me cause i had my states applyd and he did like no dmg but i couldnt hit him back =(





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JEAUX_ZUF
Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:34 pm
#9

nice sentance



Jeauxzuf
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jeromfelt
Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:42 pm
#10

tkm vs fencer duels are some of the best duels in this game. On shadowfire there is quite a few former tka that hvae gone over to fencers in our guild. My current and favorite template is TKM master doc, and i seem to end up dueling 2-3 fencers a day. I've dueled defense stackers up to fencer doctors with uber acklay stun batons reaching into 400+ damage. there are a few things that always work to put things in your favor;


1. you MUST ALWAYS wear FULL stun armor, and it is important that it is ENCUMBERANCE sliced, when dueling with buffs and foods, your mind is the most important of the HAM bars.


2. get a high damage vk preferably 190+ damage, and use either min max power ups or a damage mind reduction powerup.


3. spam intimidate, if you are master brawler warcry 2 and stack those intimidates on them while they cant fight back(this really is only effective if you can prevent your opponent from doing the same to you, this is where doctor plays a critical role in my template as i can heal all state effects.)


4. DO NOT waste time and ham spammin ua hit 3, they are gonna be wearing 80%+ kinetic armor. Best bet is to spam head hit non stop, even if it does little damage it will do more over time than ua hit 3 can. They will be spammin scatter hit which gives you an advantage as it is not guaranteed to hit mind, whereas you will always be hitting mind.


5. depending on your template, it is important to use certain foods, since i can heal all state effects i didnt bother with kd and dizzy food, i went straight for the brandy and canape(also when fighting a defense stacker it helps to use accuracy food, or in my case i try to keep some deadeye around:smileyvery-happy


i hope this helps, either way you are lookin at a good duel lasting up to 15-20 minutes hehe






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EcadMistflier
Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:22 am
#11


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Liwiwo
Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:59 am
#12

if they eat dodge food, eat some acc. food and that wont be a problem at all, intim stun and lay it on him, anyway i seem to find combo 2 alot more usefull than headhit tbh, it seems to deal more mind dmg than headhit 1, and if the guy is mus buffed, 2 brandys, canape and a muon headhit is completely useless, and that pretty much where combo shows wich of his hams are the weakest and from there u start hammering the weak one, if hes got a stun weap and u guys are figting in armor ull always have a pretty hard time, thats why i prefer duelling without armor, since the money we spend on armor arent taking into account and it wont be a 20 min fight, and if they do wanna fight duel i start stacking mind dots with pikes, allthough most ppl whine when you start doing it i really couldnt care less tbh, cus we dont have a higher min dmg than max dmg weapon, nor stun weap at all , so when fencers do wanna figth with armor on its a show of weakness imo cus they prolly arent that good and rely on their stun weap or they do know that tkm's output more dps than fencers and therefore wont do it without armor also cus of their stun chances but as long as they dont wear armor fencers are far from unbeatable, your template does so much for you, if you have no idea what to do even though you made the sickest template you will loose to a wiser and smarter person, the pvping relys on both skills and experience, alot of ppl fails to understand this and therefore suffer alot from it.



Liwiwo
Wolf_Scout
Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:19 am
#13

"and if they do wanna fight duel i start stacking mind dots with pikes, allthough most ppl whine when you start doing it i really couldnt care less "


But if a fencer wears armor it is a sign of weakness? If you were such a great TKM why use a pike, gimme a break.

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