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Thread: Beat the ranged !

GarronDarkweaver
Fri May 06, 2005 7:34 pm
#1

I worked out a new strategy today whilst letting a mate test her new carbine on me.


So shes spamming away with her highest damage attacks as fast as she can trying to test damage and im healing whilst cob is running and by just standing still i manage to evade most of the hits and easilly keep up with healing the damage im dealt (she had 530 modded dps so her attacks werent actually weak by any stretch of the immagination) and within a minuite her action is litterally all gone, whilst all my bars are completely full.


So what?


Well we are all complaing about root being game breaking but when we can tank like that against the highest damage dealing proff in the game currently (bh/ranged combo) with some mid-level healing skills, why not just let them root you, stand there taking a kicking and healing it calmly whilst conserving that oh so valuable action that your opponent will soon be without , then as soon as their action is all spammed, burst run in, kd, armour break, strong attack (in my case adv. impale as i am pikes) then adv combo as a follow up then spam those two away untill they are dead (takes seconds)


I dont for one second think im the first person to realise this but i just thought id allert everyone to the strength of mixing in some mid level healing abilities with a melee template as you can just stand there till their action is dead then own them.


For the record i had novice doctor at the time of realisation and it was just ok to keep up with the damage but im going for 4 0 0 0 doc so i can heal even more.



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Galbatorix
Fri May 06, 2005 7:48 pm
#2

The problem i hav seen with doing this is that any time that i duel a ranged person...after i get out of the root i go to throw my kd...but after they kd, they conveniently slide around out of range so that i am unable to get any hits in and they are up and running again cuz the action cost on kd recov is low. Trust me i was dueling a person for about 15 min cuz we both had stim d's and neither could gain an advantage partly cuz of wat u said about just avoiding blows while rooted and calmly heal and the opponent never actually bein kd to a single spot... rather they just simply slide around cuz the lag didnt keep up with the continous running my opponent did!!! Ranged and Melee are balanced, but kd needs to work just as efficiently as ROOT!!!
GarronDarkweaver
Fri May 06, 2005 8:00 pm
#3

It most certainly does



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Aeternali
Sat May 07, 2005 5:47 am
#4

The problem is two fold.


1) root lasts for too long and too often. This enables the ranged to get out of range and deal a lot of damage. we simply can take it better and last longer. I still win 2/3rds of the time but when the ranged people get better at it they will drop that precentage a lot. They will own if something is not done.


2) the lag that someone refers to is real. With all of the specials being used by the ranged person things tend to get slow. After the root is gone you run up to the ranged attacked and hit lunge etc. Range is 0m and guess what? I get out of range or invalid target. This goes one for quite a while. If this happens the ranged guy will win, if not i will win.


Additionally, Center of Being is still bugged as far as i am concerned. yes i know that if i get hit while the little yellow bar is going up it wont stick. Ok fine, If i move while the little bar is going up it wont stick. However, there seems to be a whole set of undocumented circumstances that prevent it from sticking.


I hear rumor that root will be changed to where once you take damage it will release. This is much better but even then you will still have problem #2.





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Kaishodan
Sat May 07, 2005 4:36 pm
#5

so what do you do when you are rooted... AND paralyzed? you cant heal, parry, or even put back CoB... all you can hope for is that you didnt just use a stim to heal yourself and that they miss alot while the root/paralyze is up...


i literally had been rooted and paralyzed to the point where the pc was 3m away from me and tossed grenades for fun to incap me... something definitely needs to be done about the kd of your opponent only to receive "too far" everytime you try to use a move... then something needs to be done about the lasting time and the cooldown/warmup time of root and paralyze... how are we to effectively pvp?


any ideas on how you get around someone that can root and paralyze you please help me... oh yea... my ranged def is up in the 300s plus add the elashandru (sp?) so what gives?



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Fitzhume
Sat May 07, 2005 5:53 pm
#6

Also realize that a they can also just KD you from afar, and as long as they can keep you at bay for 45 seconds, you are toast.

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GarronDarkweaver
Sun May 08, 2005 9:14 am
#7

Your only toast if you cant heal or you are quite frankly dog sh ite at the game.


All root does is allow them to make you stand still, so just heal while you are stuck then run in when their action is down, it really is that simple no action = no attacking.


As for paralise nothing can be done about that, its a game breaking skill when combined with root and needs to be adressed.


Obviosley my technique wont work every time but it seems to have worked very well so far for me.



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Ramona_Garcia
Sun May 08, 2005 9:48 am
#8

Last patch was supposedly fix paralyze so it breaks upon taking damage like it is supposed to.



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