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Thread: Teach me the ways of TKM
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TenshiHanaKinu
Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:12 am
#1
I recently have finished an old toon I started long ago on the Eclipse server and once I get Master Doctor she'll be finished. She's currently CL 77 and just needs Master Doctor which should push her to CL80.
Template is :
Master Brawler // Master TKM // Master Doctor
I'm currently having a lot of fun with the toon. At CL62 I was tanking 4 or so CL80 Pikets and by the time I got to 70-ish I was able to tank as many as 8 for a good amount of time (unless I slipped and missed Center of Being for a moment). So I've just about mastered tanking, but now I need to be able to kill things, 'cause I want to have her PvP-ready in a couple of days.
I have heard that you do more damage without a knuckler once you master TKM. Is this true? If not, what weapons should I be using? I'm aware I don't have a lot of attack power with the skill-set I chose, this template hopefully can outlast most opponents, and I know it can't take on Ranged Templates in open areas (root 'n' shoot), so what should I use?
TenshiHanaKinu
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:12 am
#2
I recently have finished an old toon I started long ago on the Eclipse server and once I get Master Doctor she'll be finished. She's currently CL 77 and just needs Master Doctor which should push her to CL80.
Template is :
Master Brawler // Master TKM // Master Doctor
I'm currently having a lot of fun with the toon. At CL62 I was tanking 4 or so CL80 Pikets and by the time I got to 70-ish I was able to tank as many as 8 for a good amount of time (unless I slipped and missed Center of Being for a moment). So I've just about mastered tanking, but now I need to be able to kill things, 'cause I want to have her PvP-ready in a couple of days.
I have heard that you do more damage without a knuckler once you master TKM. Is this true? If not, what weapons should I be using? I'm aware I don't have a lot of attack power with the skill-set I chose, this template hopefully can outlast most opponents, and I know it can't take on Ranged Templates in open areas (root 'n' shoot), so what should I use?
Melakum
Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:32 pm
#3
Get yourself a Katarn Knuckler from the Ryatt Trails on Kasshyyk, or find a Necrosis Nightblade, loot from necrosis to increase damage output, and get a nice carbine and rifle cl 54 requirements to help you out when you are rooted, root will break upon damage if they really fixed it im not sure if they have yet, but if you are really havin trouble in pvp, get some pica thundercloud to increase ranged defense +95 and watch rifleman whine hehe, but with those heals you should be ok get some stim d's as well to give your mind a break every minute, that should help you out quite a bit
c-mot
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:01 pm
#4
drop master brawler and invest the skillpoints in swordman (i did).
there are different options - i took 0004 this gave me improved critical hit and head hit, which are both better then our best adv combo hit (even calculated unbugged) - especially damage per action - wise. in addition i got +60 on general melee accuracy - so i even hit harder with my tka specials now.
with TKM/MDoc and swordman 0004 i have 4 skillpoints left which i put into fs melee speed (+12).
there are different options - i took 0004 this gave me improved critical hit and head hit, which are both better then our best adv combo hit (even calculated unbugged) - especially damage per action - wise. in addition i got +60 on general melee accuracy - so i even hit harder with my tka specials now.
with TKM/MDoc and swordman 0004 i have 4 skillpoints left which i put into fs melee speed (+12).
TenshiHanaKinu
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:03 pm
#5
Okay so fighting WITH a Knuckler is better than without, then? I'll get a Katarn Knuckler, then.
Root will not break on damage, it isn't intended to. That is why the timer on Stopping Shot islonger than the duration of the Root.You can still attack while rooted. It is Concussion Shot that will break on Damage.
As for the other foods and guns, yeah, I have all of that stuff on my Bria toon, but now it's a matter of getting the money to get it all for this one, too.
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I'm not going to drop Master Brawler, though. I am really in love with Parry Reposte Stance. Right now it seems better for PvE but I can completely nullify incoming damage with it randomly not to mention it offers an additional 80 Defense. The only drawback is it has a Range limitation so it isn't going to be good if my opponent gets too far out of melee range. I've enjoyed some success with it in duels, too. I have 4 spare skill points that I guess I'll put intoMeleeSpeed later on.
Message Edited by TenshiHanaKinu on 06-29-2005 05:06 PM
Melakum
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:08 pm
#6
Root is intended to break on damage only the devs have not held to their statements at fan fest, many have made the arguement, but i agree with some that root taken from the game would lopside melee and make them the clear victors versus any ranged combat, however it was originally intended to break on damage, but currently doesnt, and also i agree drop master brawler, it is useless invest the points in swordsman to increase your damage output even further, get swords 2020 (and increase damage and defense- with sword flurry and a better armor break) or 2002 ( for most offense output to get power attack and critical strike), or 0022 (get armor break/sword flurry-again very tasty and more offense with critical strike) keep in mind the old TKM move Unarmed hits animation is stored in power attack, brings back old memories *drifts off*
TenshiHanaKinu
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:22 pm
#7
If they were to break Root on Damage they would have to reduce the StoppingShot timer to that of the Concussion Shot timer. Itused to have the same length timer as a normal shot (I was rooting 2 & 3 creatures on TC-Ep3 
) but it was severely lengthened because you could repeatedly root things.
) but it was severely lengthened because you could repeatedly root things.
Melakum
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:23 pm
#8
i agree it needs to either stick or have a cool down timer faster then it does, but as is i think i can live with,
TenshiHanaKinu
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:25 pm
#9
I still have 2 weeks of Respec on the toon. If they don't do something about Master Doctor Healing vs. 4000, I'll drop to Doctor 4004 and put the rest into Swordsman.
But I will not drop Master Brawler. That move is just so darn cool.
Message Edited by TenshiHanaKinu on 06-29-2005 05:26 PM
Melakum
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:28 pm
#10
Master Doc is not as useful for your template as doc 4000 or 4004 with added offense from swordsman, but it can help out greatly for fellow group members as you can rez and give some nice buffs, healing power is not that much better then, with a good attachment or a some citris snow cake/thakitillo you can get master doc healing power np, i like my combo and with the publish 19 healing i cant say i am so sure about getting jedi anymore as with publish 18 i could beat a fully templated jedi
TenshiHanaKinu
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:42 pm
#11
Yeah... but I don't know. I already have a fully-dedicated support toon... so maybe I should just go with the Healer Dabbler. This toon's just for something different. I'll get the Master Doctor tag tonight and then just Respec the points over to Swordsman. If I have second thoughts I can always just put it back. I still need to get a good weapon, though.
Melakum
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:48 pm
#12
for tkm my fav is the katarn knucklers, however not too sure i wan tto get my hands on a nice necrosis nightblade which has skill mods for tkm, and for swords i like my NK executor which beats the pants off of all power hammers and scythes hehe care to test anyone? someone with an 1100 damage Ph with 102 Sac and a 499 dps already tried hehe didnt work out too well for him hehe
Cueadar
Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:58 am
#13
The unarmed skill mods on the necrosis are useless as we don't get the benefit from unarmed mods while using a weapon. What they should have done was put a general melee mod on it instead. Basically what they did makes as much sense as for them to give us a TKA only armor (yes, actual armor, which would cancel our innate) that had a bonus to our innate armor.
Also, the Parry Riposte is nearly useless. It uses a tremendous amount of action and only lasts about 5-10 seconds. You'd be much better off as others have stated, to put the SP elsewhere. Honestly the attack and skill mods are much more useful at MBrawler than parry riposte. If the devs ever adjust it to be more useful, that may change, but currently it's not that useful.
Also, the Parry Riposte is nearly useless. It uses a tremendous amount of action and only lasts about 5-10 seconds. You'd be much better off as others have stated, to put the SP elsewhere. Honestly the attack and skill mods are much more useful at MBrawler than parry riposte. If the devs ever adjust it to be more useful, that may change, but currently it's not that useful.
Message Edited by Cueadar on 07-01-2005 09:01 AM
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