Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: Call me retarded and you probably will.... TKAs? now reduced to non immortal beings?

SpockNZ
Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:54 am
#1

I like TKA ive done several TKA but ive found it boring in some aspects.


Now the point im making with this post is not to attack anyone its not to bitch and moan its merely to inform and let people know from what I have observed...


The main thing ive seen surfing these forums (as most of you no doubt have been as well) is that TKA's are all giving up now that they cant KD spam... why? you have plenty of other moves.. and hell all your damage with those went UP in the patch..


I agree its ALOT harder to level without KD spam .. really it is theres no sense in argueeing about that coz theres not point but the people who refuse to stick it out and use other skills instead of KD just boggle me I mean how many of you nearly TKM's want to up and leave? I ask those who in that group have you ever gone into the other weapon trees??? one handed and 2 handed DONT get a KD attack at all... they get psoture change but that does precious little other then force shooters to their knees in PvP giving them better accuracy.. Polearm is much in the same group only they DO get a knockdown attack except its ALWAYS costed alot of HAM and it usually misses 60% of the time.


I guess the main point of this post is to point out to all the TKA's that want to up and leave.. you shouldnt youve made it this far why not tough it out and get TKM .. I mean all the other brawler professions do why cant you?

EnosFiroken
Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:59 am
#2

"I agree its ALOT harder to level without KD spam .. really it is theres no sense in argueeing about that coz theres not point but the people who refuse to stick it out and use other skills"


excuse me, buuuutttt what other skills are we reffering to? the ones that dont work much?


Broma
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:02 am
#3

Retard
SpockNZ
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:04 am
#4

Yet another well thought out and incredibly brilliant post by the child in the corner with his thumb in his mouth.....


The post wasnt meant to start an argument im AGAINST the changes made to tka so if you feel like releasign aggression on someone whos trying to help go beat up some religious icon.


Twit

Nakaguss
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:08 am
#5

KD was the only skill other then unarm hit 3 i used i mean the combos altoget are worthless when should i use them what for yes they look hella cool but i never have to use them





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Spakariti
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:11 am
#6

They could have done any number of things to prevent "knockdown spam". However, this patch was the death knell for our profession. I do one knockdown, without knucks on, wait just over the 10 second knockdown period and repeat... after two-three knockdowns on my white con, he's at about half ham and Im out of mind despite not being struck even once. Mere seconds later it's all over and I'm back in the cloning center trying to comprehend just what in the hell the devs thought our response would be to this (obviously they were too foolish to realize that we would all quit).

Screw this game. If it's not fixed by the time my month runs out I'm done. Half Life 2 comes out soon and that will tide me over until Blizzard comes out with a MMORPG that has actually been tested before being released. "Warning: Game experience is subject to change"... they should have said "Warning: Game experience is likely to be ruined".
NRaas
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:15 am
#7

I agree with SpockNZ here.


I have not noticed any degradation in my performance in combat since the patch.


Of course I was apparently notusing my profession to its "FULL" potential before the patch, and therefore I have not had too far to fall.


I have always taken my knuckler off before chaining special moves. I can still do this post-patch, and achieve good results. I don't use /unarmedhit2 except as a killing blow to stop the death walk.


I have (Power IV, Balance II, Precision II) and can take down white con mobs within an inch of my life. Butthat is intended, its SUPPOSED to be a close battle against a white mob, it is the same level as you.


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MysticTrunks
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:21 am
#8

I wasn't even aware KD could be spammed untill like 3 days before the change. I did it the strategic way.. Knock them down.... hit em a few times then time it just right to knock them down again. repeat. I could still do this today if it didn't cost me 200 ham... Even at 100 ham i could do this. (for a long while i never unequiped my knucklers and it cost me 119 ham to KD) BUT NOOOOO, it cost 200 F'n ham point now, does some chump pistoleer have to worry about it? of course not! Some that just goes around like Tony Saprano smackin' people in the head gets to do it for 100 and they have no skills or training in Melee at all!



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FortunoFiasco
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:29 am
#9

Spock, It's not about the Spam, a lot of us instead asked that it had a timer or a way to not be spammed at all... Not that ridiculous HAM cost...


Even pre-patch (apart from the first day I had it I admit) I didn't spam KD, instead I would :


KD / Blind / KD / Stun / KD / then a Hit2 Hit2 or Berzerk


Anyway, it's not only about KD, it's also about the HAM cost in general, plus that the VK experimenting is borked on HAM cost reduction experiment...


Hope you see it differently now !




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SpockNZ
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:29 am
#10

Yeah the HAM cost is insane but TKAS can always look on the bright at least you arnt commandos!


(Not very pleasant btw TKA has been nerfed NOW Commandos have NEVER been any good)

Stupidel
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:42 am
#11

"Teras Kasi are leathal, nearly impossible to knock down or unbalance"
"Facing an opponent armed with ranged weapons, high-level abilities enable him or her to evade blaster fire and close in quickly, bringing his or her enemy swiftly to the ground."


-Page 267, SWG Strategy Guide (now obsolete since last patch)


LOL, what a joke!!!!!!! ok spock, i know you're probably a low level tka at this point so you don't fully understand, but when you start attacking some of the upper level humonoid or pvp they run and shoot, they don't stop and you will never beat them because you only have two options, run with them and wait tell they shoot you too death or KD Assuming you can ever get them to stop since you can't catch up, and wait for them to get up and run again untill they shoot you and your dead now that you've used 1/3 to half your stats. So if this is what you call "GOOD IDEAS" or "GOOD GAMING" more power too you, when i get my newly formed carbine specialist up too par, i.e. expert or matster skill in the marksman, because we all it know it doesn't require much else to kick a tka's but now, we'll see just how good all these changes really were, i agree KD spam needed to be limited but there were MUCH better options that this. This has got to be the worst decision a gaming dev has ever thought up, not only have they made them selves a joke but they've also made an entire class a joke. good luck on PVP buddy, you're going to need it.


shasvoco t'Kaw ex. Master tka.

FD_Pilot
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:49 am
#12

So are you saying 50% of the time you should win...and 50% of the time you should be visiting the cloning center?
Reachwind
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:50 am
#13

As a character with a small HAM pool I can assure you that these changes are game breaking. They didn't want us to spam specials? Ok, increase our regular attack and defense so we can survive against our even match opponents. Make specials worth the HAM cost... Throwing a KD never works on the stuff that is even con once you get above advanced in your TK skills. You have touse two or three just to get it to work. Three KDs and my character is incapped under the current system.
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