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Objectivist

Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:00 pm

So I've got a really nice cloak

Ranged Injury Speed +25, Unarmed Damage +9, Volley Fire Bonus +15

Ive recently started unarmed, and im halfway through novice tka. When I wear this cloak and examine the combat spam, I notice no difference in damage. Ive even unequiped my vk's, still no major changes.

So I decided to track down a skill tape for unarmed damage +1 to see if the damage was dependant on a mod of 10. Still nothing.

Please tell me this is not like weapon experimentation points, where +10 only gets you one more point.

Thanks... and any more advice and opinions on skill tapes would rule!

OVOYO
Master Billingsworth HunchY
Master Common Melaise

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w0rmh0le

Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:55 am

#2

My experience with skill tapes, is thst only the first modifier actually works.

Cielago

Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:27 am

#3

First question : do you see the +9 unarmed damage bonus in your character skills mod window ?

My undertstanding is that the bonus starts to work above +10.

Captain Cielago
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Objectivist

Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:13 am

#4

Man I hope thats not true, since this cloak was looted with the mods on it.

Still no noticable difference. Anyone else know?

OVOYO
Master Billingsworth HunchY
Master Common Melaise

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FelixDarque1

Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:39 am

#5

I can't seem to tell the difference with any of this stuff.

I bought +88 points of healing mod clothing (I know +25 is max) because I wanted to take into account decay when dying, and I figure they will still be useful even at 30% condition.

I have tested extensively and I can't tell a difference in buffs or healing...so no clue really. One would expect to see~25% increase but statistically I see no changes.

Darque
Wanderhome

Darque

Ophiiade

Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:23 am

#6

I'm a TKM and Master Doc. Firstly, I actually get better buffs using a 110 droid with +16 clothing mods for medical instead of +32 (I have a dec vest +16 on wound treatment and injury treatment, and a skirt which is the same. I usually take off my shirt when buffing because they're alot better with +16 than with +32). This leads me to believe that anything over +25 actually has a negative effect to your buffs.

Also, when using a skill tape with multiple mods, only the highest mod applies. I believe it's the same for looted items as well. So currently you won't be getting any benefits for unarmed by using that +9 because effectively you're only using the +25 Ranged Injury Speed mod. The mods still show in the skills list, but they aren't actually applied which really sucks.

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Joth_Kyles

Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:43 am

#7

My understanding differs from all the others posted so far. You aren't noticing a difference because the difference is negligable. You are doing 9 more points of damage. Not a big deal and easily lost in the randomness of damage done.

for example... You do50 - 150 base damage (VK's), and have a normal skill of +100 unarmed damage (so you are doing 150 - 250) add +9 to that and the range is still only 159-259. Not a significant change and probably goes unnoticed since there are only 9 new damage numbers that you might see.

As far as the Doc that see's better healing with the +16 cloths over the +32 cloths, once again the damage range for buffs and damaged healed is so large, you could have had a few bad random number generations give you the impression that +16 is better than +32. Or it could be that your theory is correct and anything over +25 works as a negative. I'm also a doc and I usually wear +75 worth of med enchancing cloths (for the look really, I like to LOOK like a doctor when I'm buffing), and I seem to buff in the same range as when I only wear +25 (all I take with me on hunts to avoid decay loss).

Message edited because I had a bout of big fingered typos.

Message Edited by Joth_Kyles on 02-04-2004 12:44 PM

Joth Kyles
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FelixDarque1

Wed Feb 04, 2004 11:20 am

#8

I tracked 90 buffs at +0 and 90 buffs at +88 (15 runs of 6 buffs each time)

Small population, admittedly, but one would have expected to see some variance. Statistically the same.

I will try a run at +25 only and let you know, just in case there is some whacky looping effect that penalizes us for having more than max - like the armor attachment thing where similar attachments cancel each other out in favor of the largest vs stacking.

Thanks!

Darque

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