Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: If I Can't Run & Hit Neither Should They
Has anyone ever shot a gun? Has anyone ever shot a gun while running? Finally, has anyone ever shot a gun while running at a moving target? You know what, probably not and I think many have over looked the fact that run and gun should be highly ineffective. Now I am not saying it should be gotten rid of, of course a ranged combatant can shot their gun while running, but how often they hit while running should be changed. The only truly effective ranged shooting should be while standing still not running.
Also special moves such as bleed and mind shot should have a 30-second delay as well as knockdown attack and all special moves should require the person to not be moving in order to land. How can a ranged person while running, shot at me while running and hit me directly in the head, it's not very believable.
Also has anyone noticed that even when you are doing player vs. player and you get close to a ranged, they use a posture change attack and you kneel and have to wait to get up making all the distance you gained on them irrelevant. Also to be honest a 30-second timer is too long to have for knockdown attacks. Most player vs. player duels last under 30 seconds, it was taken from no timer to 30 seconds, that is ridiculous. Why can't I knockdown someone twice in 30 seconds. I really don’t see why I can’t spam knockdown if a ranged can use run and gun effectively. They are making the game unrealistic to suit the different classes. And if you are going to be unrealistic, I want some unrealistic benefits as well.
Anyway I've let out my grips with unarmed. I'm sure I missed things, but my main problem is run and gun effectiveness but I am hoping the developers will go to a shooting range and try hitting a target 30m away in the head while running.
-Sethis
Bloodfin
Good points. I agree with most of what you had to say.
I have pistoleer skills along with my TKA skills. Last night i noticed that I was able to pistolwhip and land the attack at full speed. Now if pistoleers can do a melee attack running then why can't we?
Have you ever tried hitting someone while running?
Possible but not very efective. In the other hand its much easier ro shoot a gun and run.
Yes it is very easy to run and shoot at the same time but it's impossible to hit whatever you are shooting at.
I'm not saying ranged needs to be nerfed. I'm just saying if ranged can hit on the move then melee should be able to as well.
my personal favorite is the "eyeshot". I mean who actually belives that a guy can run and shoot me in the eye while im running away from him. If you believe that then there is no reason why I cant do the lui kang flying kicks from 20m ![]()
I personally think we should be like Morpheus in The Matrix. Alot faster than normal people but still shootable. How else would we be "feared by Jedi"? This game has ALOT of things to balance but right now for melee's sake I think the melee vs. range thing should be balanced first. My character sat at novice commando while I played TKA. Now im playing commando again(since they gave them the much needed boost) while I wait for SOE to figure out what they are doing with the melee vs. range problem. Personally Id like to master both ![]()
Bight
TKA-Smuggler-commando
I compleatly agree with you. After all this universe is an imaginary one and imagination can do wonderfull things. The problem comes when people wnat their players to be invincible. Personally I dont think that is alot of fun. The day I relize I can beat everyone with my fists is the day ill quit the game.
While having some moves that equal Morpheus would be extremely cool, some might be pushing it quite a bit. If had he's moves then we would be like Jedi and almost invincible. Bare in mind even jedi sucumb to others.
What makes a person dangerous is not determined only on his trainning. There are many skills in the game one can gain and combine to create a lethal character.
For example how good is a jedi against a missile launcher. Also remember that in order for a jedi to do serious damage to a TKA he needs to get in close, and that is the TKA domain. You come in close it is at your own risk. Jedi can deflect blasters with lightsabres but fighting a TKA is not deflecting a blaster shot. Its deflecting a MAster at unarmed combat. I Pitty the Jedi w/out the trainning in close quarter combat.
Some examples of really deadly Jedi:
Mace Windu and Depa Bilaba (something like this) masters of vaapad.
Darth Maul TKA/Two handed combat/one handed combat and polearm etc.......................
Count Dooku master fencer.
Qui Gon Jin master swordsman
and so on.
So dont think you are deadly just for being TKA; just make sure you have other skills to make you even deadlier. Not that TKA needs it in close range combat no matter who it is.
<While having some moves that equal Morpheus would be extremely cool, some might be pushing it quite a bit. If had he's moves then we would be like Jedi and almost invincible. Bare in mind even jedi sucumb to others. >
I used Morpheus as an example of our description in the "unrealistic" realm. He really didnt have moves, just speed and knowledge. As far as jedi goin against a rocketlauncher, I would think they could force push it as in other lucasarts games but for balance maybe not![]()
Just remember that no matter how tough a jedi is they do die. And die they do in the hands of none force weilders.
If you read books or comics on Star Wars youll see how often this is true. The force is a strong ally but it is not everything when it comes to combat. Guess we will have to wait and see how MAce Windu dies in chapter 3. I dont think it will be in the hands of a force user.
True master jedi might be able to deflect a rocket (sometimes) but it is no easy task and should take a lot out of them, giving the oponent a chnace to come up with anothe rattack.
ok for realism sake
my friend COULD if he had the room do a barrer roll (he never tried this but i think it would work) ovver his sparring partener and hurt him
there is NO way they have enough time to do that w the graphis.......
leg break i say for sure
also leg break should
Has anyone ever shot a gun? Has anyone ever shot a gun while running? Finally, has anyone ever shot a gun while running at a moving target?
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YES ive shot a gun
YES aganst my bvetter jujment i have shot a gun while runnigng
YES i have shot at moving targets
its not ez they did a study and ppl lose their fine motor skill while their adrinlen is pumping and thats what you need to shoot a gun
What you are saying is not entirely true? While shooting and running at the same time are practically impossible, it is still possible. And the closer your oponent is the easier it should be to hit him. I agree with you on the fact that bigger restrictions or chances of hitting an opponent while running should be implemented.
The fact is that fighting while running is even harder. Try running after someone and kicking him or punching him at the same time. Chances are youll never hit or fall on your face, and if you hit it wont be 2 efective unless the other person has stopped and you cought up.
I think tha t maybe a tackle move or holding (grapling) move should be incorporated to the game. This would give us TKA a more reasonable chance at a fight.