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Thread: The Grind Observations of Vegitaa Gaiden TKM/DOC/FS
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Vegitaa
Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:43 am
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"The Grind"
Observations of Vegitaa Gaiden
Master Doctor / Teras Kasi Master
So, you log into Coronet and arrange for Entertainer Buffs...
"Can I get an Invite to Mind Buff Group?"
"Can I get an Invite to Mind Buff Group?"
/g Thanks
/watch
(5 minutes or so goes by....)
/stopwatching
/listen
(5 minutes or so goes by....)
/stoplistening
Steps outside to buff really quick... (You consume Bivoli Tempara) (You Consume Vasarian Brandy) (You Consume Vasarian Brandy)
Bring up datapad, call droid...
Buff all 6 stats (You enhance your health for 2458 points)
Ok, now I'm ready. Time to jump on a shuttle to Dantooine/Dathomir. Run to buy ticket...
"Selling X item for X price, come to my Uber Leet shop outside coronet....)
"Selling X item for X price, come to my Uber Leet shop outside coronet....)
"Selling X item for X price, come to my Uber Leet shop outside coronet....)
"Selling X item for X price, come to my Uber Leet shop outside coronet....)
/addignore spammers
Buy ticket, /bo trans "The Shuttle is not available at this time."
(5 minutes go by...)
/bo trans (Loading......)
Land at Dantooine/Dathomir
/yell "Looking for Solo Group!"
/yell "Looking for Solo Group!"
/yell "Looking for Solo Group!"
/accept
/g thanks guys, now off to do missions.
Time to hop a shuttle to an Improved Job market city.
/bo trans
Now the "fun" part. Refresh..... Refresh..... Refresh..... Refresh..... Janta Mission 31,000 payout, accept.
Refresh..... Refresh..... Refresh..... Refresh..... Refresh..... 33,000 Mokk mission accept.
Drive for a minute or so, /dismount
/unarmedSpinAttack2;
/unarmedSpinAttack2;
/unarmedSpinAttack2;
/unarmedSpinAttack2;
/unarmedSpinAttack2;
/unarmedSpinAttack2;
/loot
/loot
/loot
/loot
/loot
"You have Destroyed Stone Knife"
"You have Destroyed Stone Knife"
3 hours passes. At this point you've made around a million credits, 500-900,000 unarmed exp. Plenty of combat exp.
Fly to coronet.
Fly to Dathomir.
Drive 6 minutes to the village.
Convert experience.
fly to Coronet either to go back to Dantooine, get rebuffed or to logoff for the evening.
Is this all a Teras Kasi Masterhas leftto do?
Well folks there you have it. Thats the Force Sensitive grind. Like it or hate it this seems to be the fastest way I've found. Now I'm not complaining but doesn't this seem a bit.. well... boring? I'm mainly bidding my time till JTL comes out. I highly doubt I will ever actually go Padawan/Initiate/Jedi. But it was something I wanted to do in this game.
This is not another "I'm a Vet gimmie Jedi cause I earned it!" thread. I don't support that type of thinking. I have been in-game a year now. I did everything for the sake of doing it. I have enjoyed my time in SWG so far but this new grind has kind of gotten me down.
Money isn't an issue anymore because I run enough missions in 3 hours to make millions. I have a PA hall packed to the rafters with loot. I have 75 badges and have completed evey themepark in game. I have held player events. I helped build a city and I have tried to bring roleplaying to Ahazi a few times. I have my AV-21, Swoop, 5 droids, 2 mounts and I'm just waiting to get my JTL preorder speeder. I've given newbies everything from full sets of armour, to training them how to advance, all the up to tipping non-afk entertainers 50k each just to spend money!
Whats left? I still like the game, I still have a lot of buddies in-game that keep me playing as well. But recently it's been hard to get in the mood to turn it on. I look at the computer and I think to myself, "Well, I guess I could get online and grind a bit.... I did just download that Dawn of War demo though..."
Jump to LightSpeed is what I'm waiting for now. I've been grinding for a year now, I don't want to anymore. I wanted Jedi pretty bad but I was never willing to change my character for it. I did 3 holo's because I wanted to and they were convienant. With the present system there's no way I'm going to intentionally grind towards it. Normal gameplay will generate the exp and maybe someday I'll go that route but I doubt it.
So Jedi is not in my future. That will be the one thing I don't do in this game due to the way it has been implemented. Big deal. I'll live. Jump to LightSpeed will be the deciding factor for me like so many others. People only have so much time to play games and most of us focus on one at a time. I don't want to cancel my subscription and I'm not planning on it. Between now and JTL my time grinding will be very slim.
I'm looking forawrd to Sandbox Testing, I would like to be in JTL Beta (doubtful...), I'm looking forward to the Combat Balance, and Galactic Civil War publish. The only problem is that for now I'm just idle it seems. Repeating the same pattern every time I login.
Once you've crossed the million credits threshold what more do you need? Great, I'll have money to buy a ship when they first come out (which will be insane the first 2 weeks then come into normal pricing I hope). Heck, my PA storage is maxed at 250 and my bank is full I couldn't go buy stuff now if I wanted to... no place to put it! SWG has issues we all know this. There's just no reason to get online for me currently until something new comes along. Patience is a virtue I agree, but SOE/SWG is really testing mine.
Again, to be clear.... I AM NOT QUITTING right now. I'm just majorly disillusioned with the new FS system but more to the point grinding in general. Grinding is no fun, I would have loved to have seen an actual quest based system vs. the quest gated grind system we have now. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for JTL and Combat Balance. C'mon SOE, you have the chance of a lifetime with this game. Don't let it be a black-eye.
Tathizar
Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:19 am
#2
I'll start off by saying the new FS "quest.." system isn't what i thought it would be either, however i believe that isn't something that belongs in this forum. they have something like that in the jedi forum. I will say though that the way you are doing it is NOT the fastest way to grind xp, i made a post about it.. huurton stalker missions, or the merc room in the geo caves will get you there alot faster, i can max out 2h xp, unarmed xp and get 180k combat xp in ONE buff session.
Vegitaa
Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:31 am
#3
Tathizar wrote:
I'll start off by saying the new FS "quest.." system isn't what i thought it would be either, however i believe that isn't something that belongs in this forum. they have something like that in the jedi forum. I will say though that the way you are doing it is NOT the fastest way to grind xp, i made a post about it.. huurton stalker missions, or the merc room in the geo caves will get you there alot faster, i can max out 2h xp, unarmed xp and get 180k combat xp in ONE buff session.
Well, I am maxxing my unarmed in a single session as well as my Doc exp. Also this is not just a "rant" about FS questing. More to the point, I'm posting that as a TKM I've run out of "fun" things to do right now. I try to go on weekly trips to DWB with a good group on Ahazi. So I haven't just thrown up my hands and said this game sucks.
I would just like to see something for us to do besides the FS quests now. I know, I know, it's coming. GCW revamp, JTL, combat balance.. etc...
For now though, those of us who have been on for a longtime have completed most everything else. I don't wanna bash or flame on anyone. I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out what we all already know.
Eyedun
Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:10 am
#4
its only a grind because you make it.. because all your interested in doing is getting the XP the fastest possible way.
Stop grinding, start playing, ignore the XP, and have fun. You'll be surprised at just how quickly XP comes when you stop watching it... its only a grind because thats how people choose to play it.
Stop grinding, start playing, ignore the XP, and have fun. You'll be surprised at just how quickly XP comes when you stop watching it... its only a grind because thats how people choose to play it.
Eyedun
Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:50 pm
#6
Vegitaa wrote:
Eyedun wrote:
its only a grind because you make it.. because all your interested in doing is getting the XP the fastest possible way.
Stop grinding, start playing, ignore the XP, and have fun. You'll be surprised at just how quickly XP comes when you stop watching it... its only a grind because thats how people choose to play it.Again, you're missing my point. I do "play" the game. I have "played" the game since launch. I never went out of my way for Jedi, Holo's or anything else. Reread what I'm saying.
Completed every Themepark, 75 badges, 7 prof's, PA Hall for 9 months, helped build a player city, massive amounts of loot in my limited storage space, 7 player events held to date, 3 Corvette badges, and weekly trips to Deathwatch.
I have Played, and will continue to do so. My issue is... what do I do between now and JTL if I don't want FS at all?
Sure, I'll make it through the 6 trees that I want eventually. So I don't care how long that takes. The reason I posted here is because I believe there's plenty of Teras Kasi Masters in the same boat as me. Been around for awhile and have no interest in becoming Jedi. Sure, we may pick-up some FS to enhance ourselves but otherwise not going on to Jedi.
I only grind once or twice a week and it's for the money not so much the exp. But what else is there to do? Patiently wait for more content.... fine, I'll wait, but why logon between now and the time the content is finally released? To what end?
I'll be rich when JTL launches, big deal. I love SWG, I just feel that until we get JTL, Combat Revamp, and GCW revamp we're in a holding pattern.
ahh.. ok i did missunderstand what you were saying.
how about becoming a Jedi killing machine ?
I 100% agree with you that weremissing content, and even worse, SOE ENCOURAGES perceptions, attitudes and actions that deliberately stop players from creating content. Its very sad. I've had a great time lately interacting with newbies in Mos Eisley, educating them and roleplaying etc etc.
Vegitaa
Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:35 pm
#7
Well as far as PvP as a thing to do or even becoming a "Jedi Killing Machine". I remember back before Pub 6 when Player cities were still new, our city (Capital City, Naboo) had 10 bases and numerous turrets. PvP was pretty fun! Bounty Hunters were still pretty tough and in general there wasn't much whining about who "pwn'ed" who.
I PvP mainly at player run tournaments or friendly duels every now and then at a starport. Jedi hunting seems like a pain in the butt currently. All I see on the BH/Jedi forums is kindergarten stuff. So and so exploited, GTEF problems, etc...
Thats why I'm holding out for GCW and Combat revamps before going near it. BH's get all bent out of shape when TK's say they want to hunt Jedi. Jedi get all bent out of shape because TK's are able to take em out... lot's of complaining and name calling.
I won't get involved in that kind of drama. I like my Drama on TNT thank you very much! LMAO!
PvP will make a come back I hope. The GCW will be worth getting involved in again, I hope. So lots of goodness on the horizon. Just right now, this month, and even most of October I can't say there's anything I need/want to accomplish.
FS exp will come naturally, eventually I'll have the boxes I want filled. Money will become a non-issue as it is so easy to make. Till JTL all I have to spend money on is buff-packs and new armour every third trip to DWB. I've been thinking about working out how to solo the Corvette missions to keep me busy.
Thing is, SWG has lost my attention currently. Thats something the Dev's need to think about. There's plenty of new games coming out in the next 2 months. Players like me who have been disusioned after playing for over a year are important to the player base. If some other game gets my attention it could lead to the loss of my account eventually.
I left Eve online because it got boring and SWG was more fun. Had to choose which game was worth a monthly subscription. SWG won that round. Now, with all these new MMO's (none of which interest me) as well as the new Grand Theft Auto, Warhammer Dawn of War, etc... SWG has got to do something to keep us around and interested.
I'm not leaving anytime soon. Heck I'll probably be one of the last 5 goofballs floating around space the day they finally turn off the servers. I believe that SWG/SOE needs to through the communitty a bone. Give those who could care less about grinding another option. They are capable of doing so. I believe the Dev team can make a difference if they were motivated to do so.
So a few suggestions....
- I've never seen a live event... couldn't they do more of these more often?
- Darth Vader and other Iconic figures need to do something, get involved.
- Instead of Uber content dungeons and rare loots, how about new themeparks and new craftable items given to those professions.
- Make faction armour craftable already, make it competitive at least. Bring Star Wars to SWG.
- Player cities are ghost towns since the holo-grind, help get them revitalized.
- Fix the bugs since launch (where's my D$%N Imperial Cap?)
- Take care of some of these little things soon, you'd be surprised the difference it makes.
- Give Entertainers some new songs/dances. If I hear StarWars2 one more time I swear....
I don't want to flame and bash the Dev's the community can help change things too, unfortunately organizing player events is harder than getting kids to go to the dentist.
As Jester would say, "I live in and love this game, though bugs frustrate me, players give me both headaches and good times, it has become a part of my daily life. "
snkg254
Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:40 pm
#8
I here ya Vegitaa, prety much nothing else to do, i picked up bh but i really don't like it lol.It was just something else to do. i also have a jedi but that is boaring also (currently shelved), you aren't missing much. I havent posted in the TK forums in ages.
VBDotNetRulz
Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:33 pm
#9
I agree with you vegitaa. There is one thing I think you aren't considering though. If games had no grind, then everyone would be "uber". lol 
Digitalphobia
Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:19 pm
#10
Hi,
Yeah could be wonderful if famous NPCs come and go on killing spree. CSR and SOE crews could probably use massive fun to relax over the weekends. (Of course in designated area only. No mass killing in Theed or something.)
Or CSR/SOE can stroll around giving people strange missions. For example, hunt and kill another CSR or SOE crew. Why not!? Customers vs. Employees PvP. (No GOD mode) For winning, you get more PvP rating or something. Oh come on, CSR/SOE bosses, your employee can have some "legit" fun.
Or Galaxy-wide CSR/SOE hosted tornaments. Of course, you gotta have "classes." No-Armor-No-Buff, Buff-No-Armor, Fully-Armed-To-Teeth, Heavy-Weapons-Only, Mounted-Fight, Bounty-Hunter-ShowDown, Swoop-Racing (with PC competitors), No-Low-Blow (no KD lol!) etc etc.
Q
P.S. I do some grinding, but occassionally go on shopping sprees. I am a TKM so I go shopping for clothes and drinks and chatter with shop-keeps. (I suppose I am absolutely no hurry to be an jedi. I mean seriously, I wouldn't want to be caught with that rugged dirty robes. Yeah I want to petition for better jedi outfits.
Yeah could be wonderful if famous NPCs come and go on killing spree. CSR and SOE crews could probably use massive fun to relax over the weekends. (Of course in designated area only. No mass killing in Theed or something.)
Or CSR/SOE can stroll around giving people strange missions. For example, hunt and kill another CSR or SOE crew. Why not!? Customers vs. Employees PvP. (No GOD mode) For winning, you get more PvP rating or something. Oh come on, CSR/SOE bosses, your employee can have some "legit" fun.
Or Galaxy-wide CSR/SOE hosted tornaments. Of course, you gotta have "classes." No-Armor-No-Buff, Buff-No-Armor, Fully-Armed-To-Teeth, Heavy-Weapons-Only, Mounted-Fight, Bounty-Hunter-ShowDown, Swoop-Racing (with PC competitors), No-Low-Blow (no KD lol!) etc etc.
Q
P.S. I do some grinding, but occassionally go on shopping sprees. I am a TKM so I go shopping for clothes and drinks and chatter with shop-keeps. (I suppose I am absolutely no hurry to be an jedi. I mean seriously, I wouldn't want to be caught with that rugged dirty robes. Yeah I want to petition for better jedi outfits.
JHendrix
Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:19 pm
#11
Vegitaa wrote:
"The Grind"
Observations of Vegitaa Gaiden
Master Doctor / Teras Kasi Master
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5 stars for you.I couldnt agree more with your views on the state of the game.I also fell that i've kinda done it all and seen it all in the past year, with enough loot, badges, and bucks in the bank with nothing to really spend it on. Hopefully the combat balance and the GCW revamp will bring back large scale pvp. The JTL should be pretty interesting, but the almost daily huge faction raids from back in the day were pretty damn fun.
Vegitaa
Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:06 am
#12
Eyedun wrote:
its only a grind because you make it.. because all your interested in doing is getting the XP the fastest possible way.
Stop grinding, start playing, ignore the XP, and have fun. You'll be surprised at just how quickly XP comes when you stop watching it... its only a grind because thats how people choose to play it.
Again, you're missing my point. I do "play" the game. I have "played" the game since launch. I never went out of my way for Jedi, Holo's or anything else. Reread what I'm saying.
Completed every Themepark, 75 badges, 7 prof's, PA Hall for 9 months, helped build a player city, massive amounts of loot in my limited storage space, 7 player events held to date, 3 Corvette badges, and weekly trips to Deathwatch.
I have Played, and will continue to do so. My issue is... what do I do between now and JTL if I don't want FS at all?
Sure, I'll make it through the 6 trees that I want eventually. So I don't care how long that takes. The reason I posted here is because I believe there's plenty of Teras Kasi Masters in the same boat as me. Been around for awhile and have no interest in becoming Jedi. Sure, we may pick-up some FS to enhance ourselves but otherwise not going on to Jedi.
I only grind once or twice a week and it's for the money not so much the exp. But what else is there to do? Patiently wait for more content.... fine, I'll wait, but why logon between now and the time the content is finally released? To what end?
I'll be rich when JTL launches, big deal. I love SWG, I just feel that until we get JTL, Combat Revamp, and GCW revamp we're in a holding pattern.
McFlyGuy
Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:48 pm
#13
My Experience...
Corellia
Load in...
Bleh I don't feel like playing..
*2 Hours Later*
Alright might aswell do some grinding... 
Buffing only 1 million!
/t *Doctor* Whats with the prices!?
*Doctor* replies: Whats with the complaining? You can make that much in a buff session!
/grumble /tip *doctor* 1 million
*Doctor* Replies: Sorry I only accept bank tips. Your tip has been ignored.
/mash teeth together /tip *Doctor* 1 million bank
*Doctor* buffs all your stats for 1.8k /cry
The shuttle will arrive in 5 minutes /tantrum
Dathomir
Pull swoop and look around for some good lairs
Finds 64k Baz Nitch Lair
/unarmed kd
/unarmedheadhit1 x 5-10
Repeat
Blow up lair
Search for more good lairs x 20-30
Cap 900k Same as a 0040 TKA...
Run all the way back to the village
Convert 900k Unarmed XP And 90K Combat XP to 60k FS XP
Repeat Above 116 Times
Congrats you're now a Jedi!
Time to pick up your 100 ish max damage saber and kill some rats. 
Have Fun!
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