Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: i really dont understand the whole CL determination.
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Jedi1006
Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:50 pm
#1
To hard to figure out. The whole system is botched anyways. S*** if i were to see a kreetle in real life i would blast its ass in one shot with a shotgun or something. Not fight it with a CDEF pistol for 5 minutes....lol man this game is messed up now
nofseratu
Wed May 25, 2005 7:08 pm
#2
is there no official explaination on this?
my jedi isnt master of anything...dabbler of all trees (for now) and yet he is CL 80.
i just messed with a skill calculator to figure out what i want to do with my main and here is what i got.
CL lvl 64
master teras kasi
3000 Bounty hunter
0040 swordsman
0040 pikeman
wth.........CL 64? i am very confused.
i thought this template would be cool because you get like 165 defense vs. range and 205 defense vs. melee.
but since i am only 64 with this that means it is moot and not worth anything against someone that is 80? even with the high defenses i would have?
i am very very confused.
i do not understand why i cant find an official explaination from the devs on this whole CL fiasco. can someone explain or sticky me a link to official dev response on this please?
Ejudicator
Thu May 26, 2005 8:50 am
#3
I'm not sure anyone is going to really figure this out. Some skills do contribute, some don't. Iwas having a similar problem that you are. I used to have a MS and MTK, but just prior to CU I dropped MTK and went with MS, TK 4/0/0/0, Medic 0/4/4/0, Scout 4/0/0/0. When I logged into respec I was over in my skill points by 3, because of the new Brawler requirements. My CL at this point was only 54. So I figured on respecing to Master Brawler to bump me up (Had no elite points other the the TK and knew I needed it for healing wounds because doctors are more rare than my wife wearing underpants.) After respecing a bunch (and using it to my advantage by training in elite skill points I had pooled already) I got up to the amazingCLof 61 with no skill points remaining.
After meeting people in game and seeing many CL 80s, the only difference was I didn't have a double elite profession, just double master. During this time I also respec'd a few times to see what I liked and traded master swords for master pikes, and I ended up enjoying it and kept it instead of. Because this double elite was holding me back I used the Kodan calculator to figure out what to do, to get the best double elite for me. So I dropped Master Brawler, (interesting note by the way, when I did, it DIDN'T affect my CL, it stayed the same.) and all of the 1 handed line, (also no change in CL) and Medic (can you guess? No change) and trained more lower level elite skills and trained further in TK (Go figure, back to my old profs sort of). With every box my CL went up. Right now I stand at MP/TK 4/4/4/2 and am at 71. I think if we use the respec as a guide, low level boxes in certain elite skills count as 1 CL point, tier 2 - 2 CL points, and so on. I'll need more time to test but if someone else out there already with a finished template can use there personal respec and the above as a guideto see if I'm right I'm sure everyone will appreciate it.
Daikatsu
Thu May 26, 2005 9:10 am
#4
Remember that your CL is not by boxes but by how much combat XP is spent in gaining the boxes.
When I was MBH/4444Smugs, I was CL75. When I spent 1mil pistol xp to get MSmug, I jumped to CL80. So figure that 1 CL = 200,000 xp. But for lowbies, buying all 1111 of a basic profession, gets you to CL2 and that's just 4000 xp spent. So figure that the CL is a sliding scale, where with each CL you hit, you need more xp to reach the next box.
Now, getting 2222 for any elite marksman is spending 1,491,000 weapon xp with 175,500 combat xp. I'm thinking that's close to CL25. If you buy two elite marksman skills for 2222, you double your investiment but not your CL...that makes me think that it's a diminishing return scale...1,000,000 xp gets you to CL20 quickly, but moves you from 75-80 when you're near the top.
I would love to know the exact numbers involved in passing CLs, but I dont think that will ever be made public.
When I was MBH/4444Smugs, I was CL75. When I spent 1mil pistol xp to get MSmug, I jumped to CL80. So figure that 1 CL = 200,000 xp. But for lowbies, buying all 1111 of a basic profession, gets you to CL2 and that's just 4000 xp spent. So figure that the CL is a sliding scale, where with each CL you hit, you need more xp to reach the next box.
Now, getting 2222 for any elite marksman is spending 1,491,000 weapon xp with 175,500 combat xp. I'm thinking that's close to CL25. If you buy two elite marksman skills for 2222, you double your investiment but not your CL...that makes me think that it's a diminishing return scale...1,000,000 xp gets you to CL20 quickly, but moves you from 75-80 when you're near the top.
I would love to know the exact numbers involved in passing CLs, but I dont think that will ever be made public.
Jedi1006
Thu May 26, 2005 3:54 pm
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To hard to figure out. The whole system is botched anyways. S*** if i were to see a kreetle in real life i would blast its ass in one shot with a shotgun or something. Not fight it with a CDEF pistol for 5 minutes....lol man this game is messed up now
GMoney5115
Fri May 27, 2005 7:50 am
#6
I kindof don't get it, but have a grasp.
First time I logged on post-CU, I had to respec, I had to many negitave SP. (If I remember correctly, I had TKM, 0043 Commando, and still had Master Marksman that was needed for Commando back in the day.) So, I respeced to TKM and some Commando. I had a level of 70. I had three full trees and one tree with nothing, and had 70. So later, I respec to MCommando, to try it out with other ranged professions. I get a box in Carbineer's last tree, 71. Get another, 72. Another, 73. Another, 75. So somewhere in there, I did a 2 level jump. So, I'm assuming two elite masters gets you 80.
My 0.2 cents.
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