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Well personally I am MDoc/TKM and Pike 0400. There are a number of forum strings discussing these topics but I'll give you my personal take again here why I took Pike 0400.

With TKM and CoB you don't really need more Defense which is what the 0040 line of Pike gives. The best Pike offensive moves are:

• Leg Hit - Novice Pike - good damage low action


• Advanced/Improved Sweep Attack (in the first column) - low damage butknocks down multiple Enemies at a time


• Impale (second column) - higher damage than Leg Hit but more action


• Improved Spin Attack (second column) - low damage but hits all Enemies nearby


• Improved Leg Hit (second column) - same damage of Impale but lower action cost

You get:

• Melee Speed in column one


• Melee Accuracy in column two


• Defense in column three


• Polearm D in column four

So:

• Column One - Improved/Advanced SweepAttack and Melee/Polearm Speed


• Column Two - More damage dealing attacks and melee accuracy

I won't go on but TKM doesn't provide very good offensive attacks so in order to do damage as a TKM/MDoc with Pike you need column 2. I considered going Pike 1300 but Improved Leg Hit was better to me than Improved Sweep Attack. Improved Leg Hit is the highest hitting (non-Master Pike) special Pike gets with the lowest Action cost.

Intimidate is nice but really I prefer the damage in Column 2. As for Warcry I didn't see that it helpe me Tank much more than without it and withouth Column 2 you don't do much damage at all. Perhaps someone more experienced with the full Pike line can discuss Intimidate and Warcry in more detail than I can.

Yes this is a good tank and if you enjoy groups and teamwork this works well for you. No you won't be the damage dealing expert. The only problem is you don't get an area Taunt....that's in Sword (shoudl be in MTK in my opinion but nobody asked me )

As for Pike vs. Sword - if you are going to master one - master Sword. If you aren't going to master sword the next question is do you have Katern Knucklers or the Necrosis Blade and an ADK. If so - go sword boxes with those weapons (you'll deal more damage). If you don't have ADK and those weapons - go Pike and use the Vibro Lance. You'll get better damage with a Vibro Lance than any other Sword weapon (Power Hammer requires Sword Master).

That's my view/opinion! Hope it helps.

Shadow'd - Naritus

Message Edited by ShadowJJ on 07-08-2005 02:51 PM

• Column 1 you get Power Attack. This does a good bit of damage but has a very high action cost


• Column 2 you get Area Taunt. Very nice to play tank with.


• Column 4 you get Critical Strike which does ok damage but has the potential for a Critical Hit

In reading the Sword forums Critical Strike doesn't seem to actually hit "critically" very often - anyone have more info on that? As pure damage the default Head Hit you get as Novice Sword does more damage with less action cost. Head Hit also does slightly more damage than the best Pike attacks (Impale and Improved Leg Hit). So if you want to do better damage I'd go with Power Attack but personally - considering you aren't aiming to be an uber damage dealer anyway - I'd get Area Taunt and go Sword 0130 and use Armor Break then Head Hit -Armor Break allows about 25% more damage (in my tests - someone may be able to give a more factual number) so you are a good bit above the best Pike hit you can get (with only 4 boxes).

One thing I didn't mention as a suggestion: Melee Hit is the default/basic melee special. Due to Action cost of most specials I would suggest you spam between Melee Hit and your special (Head Hit or Improved Leg Hit depending if you go Sword or Pike). While Melee Hit does less damage it has almost zero Action cost so you do some damage and allow your Action to go up so you can use your special again.

My preference? I went Pike 0040 at first due to my limited weapon choice since I didn't (still don't) have an ADK for my Katern Knuckles but after I get them set? We'll see.....I think the ability for Area Taunt may actually be my deciding factor - hard to tank when you can't draw agro off your hunting party!!!! Also with the Sword boxes I believe my Speed, Accuracy and Defense were better but that I don't have hard numbers for.

Shadow'd - Naritus

Message Edited by ShadowJJ on 07-08-2005 06:23 PM

Message Edited by ShadowJJ on 07-08-2005 06:34 PM

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EsranKevi wrote:

well, i sold my ADK - for 8 mil, a pretty good price, i think - and im going to get Knucklers of the Katarn this week, probaly today, and the Necrosis blade with my guild.

but i think i can buy some ADK for 4mil from a noob =p

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