Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: UNARM UNFAIR

AlrightyThen
Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:05 am
#27

Dude, I am not a TKA but I am thinking on going it serriously dude its not unfair they have to run all the way up to like 3m away from you to hit you.... ok how is that not fair when half the time everyone runs away




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Eclipse - Freelancer
evetsleep
Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:09 am
#28






Striker-x wrote:

Is it just me or does it seem unfair that a 2handed and 1 handed and a polearm class can do 500-2000 damage on skill 4 of the brawler tree and the unarmed tree does the max of 100-170 damage on unarmed 4 come on SONY that is unfair fix the unarmed make it so someone wants to go up tka tree







If it hasn't been pointed out yet you are missing some important details when making this statement.


1. Is it possible to get 500-2000 damage with the other 3 brawler professions? Sure, but:


a. 1 handed will get the lower end of this range (around 1k tops) with specials and have some limitations to AP...and the damage really doesnt get much higher (as some one else pointed out).


b. 2 handed will get anything in this rangeWITH specials, but at a slow speed (remember that specials add to the time between swings) and at a very high HAM cost.


c. Polearms also can get this range, but due to speed and accuracy....not very fun to play at all (my opinion). Those who play with polearms miss alot more then most people are comfortable with (not to mention the whole speed issue) and polearms are extremely slow and the HAM costs are high for specials.


2. Unarmed is ment to be tough. If you consider the skills that TKA's get compared to the other melee classes (at least right now), a TKA has the upper hand in most situations compared to the other melees (except when we start talking about armor and kenetic resistance).


If you think there is a problem with people "wanting" to go up the TKA tree because it is to hard thenI think you are really missing something. Of all the brawler routes, I see more TKA's then any other. I do not think there is any problem with people going up this tree, as a matter of fact I believe that is should be tough considering the power that comes with being a TKA (once TKN is reached the path to power begins). TKA is the only brawler tree that gets skill bonuses for accuracy AND damage. All the other melee professions only get bonuses to accuracy and TKA gets some incredible skills (power boost, KD, KD2,unarmed hit 2&3 (1k-2k damage a hit\a second for me with unarmed hit2. 2k+ if they are on their back...per second! Don't even consider what happens if they are on their back and have a rifle...its sickening), meditation that heals bleeds, poisons, diseases, and can heal all wounds (including mind damage) except battle fatigue). This kind of power comes at a price that only those who are determined to tolerate unarmed melee will suffer. To those who say that unarmed is tough and that getting TKN is too hard....I say pick up a blaster if you want something easy. The rewards for walking the path less traveled are greater then walking a path that everyone else takes, but it takes certain types of people to take that path. Tothosewho say it is unfair....ask the other melees who point out how ubber the TKA's are right now if taking TKA should be an easy task.


So in myopinion (and no offense meant to you really)....I think it is just you. I think if you consider that comes with being a TKA then the damage difference can not only be explained, butit is also fair when you look at the big picture of what the path to unarmed leads to.





Orzi - Light Jedi Assasin
Apol - Master Rifleman

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them" -o.k.




evetsleep
Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:27 am
#29






CreatureFeature wrote:
Speaking of the "AND damage", I just started a TK on TC last week, I noticed the Master TKA gets +250 total toUA damage (at least as of yesterday)




Yup....another reason becoming a Teras Kasi should be very difficult.




Orzi - Light Jedi Assasin
Apol - Master Rifleman

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them" -o.k.




Striker-x
Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:24 pm
#30

Is it just me or does it seem unfair that a 2handed and 1 handed and a polearm class can do 500-2000 damage on skill 4 of the brawler tree and the unarmed tree does the max of 100-170 damage on unarmed 4 come on SONY that is unfair fix the unarmed make it so someone wants to go up tka tree

deadnewbie
Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:39 pm
#31

What's the DPS? Any damage value mentioned without respect to time is meaningless.




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Striker-x
Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:53 pm
#32

DPS for unarmed with knucks about 700-800 dmg ever 4-5 secs and thats still nothing to a polearm hitting for 2-3k dmg and a 2handed sword that hits for 1.5-2k dmg ever 1.7 sec

Striker-x
Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:54 pm
#33

sorry forgot to add unarmed without knucks only hit 300-500 dmg every 4 sec's

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