Teras Kasi Archive

-Ringe

I am a TKA novice and I realize that I need to work hard to get to be master to be able to kick real butt. I'm don't expect to be the best right at novice. If you expect that you are playing the wrong game. The day of the big patch I was kind of mad about not being able to do knockdown like I was before to get XP, but instead of complaining and whining about everything I did something about it. I was able to macro my knockdown and do whatI did before. I can now use knockdown over and over and still hit with my knucklers without the BIG ham cost. I also realize that with novice TKA I can still be knocked down with ease, but I have a few friends in the game that are TKA masters who are almost impossible to knockdown. I'm not sure what your major gripe is now with the game but I am very satisfied with the game right now, being that it is 2 months old and they are still patching and fixing things they should have long ago, like pistol whip and overpowered moves like that.

I am as unhappy about the nerfs as anyone else, but this organized quitting thing is misguided. 161 people are not going to quit. Maybe a few will.

Ever see the movie Crazy People?

Who wants to be an ad exec? [hands go up]

Who wants to be a fire engine? [same hands go up]

People will sign petitions, etc, etc but they aren't really quitting.

Your efforts would be better spent making suggestions on how to fix the problems then this "I'm taking my marbles and going home" approach.

I agree most will not quit. There are several threads with great ideas. I am not wise in game mechanics, but reading most other threads I see a lot of people who are. I have already terminated my account. While others work to provide solutions, I am doing my part to organize the disgruntled into one writhing mass. If I can get enough people to stand up, enough people to write a simple letter, that can be as effective as 80 people coming up with brilliant ideas.

Second, the devs do not care about our ideas! There were hundreds of great ideas given on how to fix things before the patch. THey picked the easiest approach. Rather than wait untill a good fix could be set, they decided to nerf now and tell us to shut up and color. SO if the pistoleers can get us nerfed by talking loud, then we have to be equally loud to get what we want. THIS CLASS WAS NOT NERFED AS PUNISHMENT! It was nerfed because too many people from other classes claimed that we were too powerfull and that they could not do what we could do. THe second reason that it was nerfed is because melee classes go against the Devs idea of what SWG should be. That being the case why not remove the class altogether? Would that not solve the "Knife to a gunfight" problem? WHy put us through this nonsense in the first place? Remove melee classes if you do not want them in game.

Third: Using dizzy+lunge is no different than using knockdown! It will be nerfed so that you cannot use that combo I promise you that! They do not want you having an effective means of fighting. They do not want you to be able to do more than default attack with the occasional special thrown in. That is the concept of Sony, that is the concept of the devs. It is this attitude of Melee classes shut up and color, that I am standing out against. Fine if you want to recommend solutions. WHat I am asking for is is fundamental changes of attitude! Now I am going to go back to Knights of the old republic....

Tcornwall, I never used the VKs to kd, the cost before the nerf was too hight. When you are just a novice you can kd without problems, the resist are really low and the mobs have low HAM and they are not really strong. When you are MTK, sometimes you needhit 4-10 times to KD a white cons mob, butthe really BIG problem is when you play in a group, the white mobs for the group use to be RED to you and that means that the mob can hit you for 400 every 2 segs and it's HAM is around10K. The numbers are easy to understand:

4x200=800 HAM(MIN) = survive for 10 segs
4x200=800 HAM(MIN) = survive for 10 segs
4x200=800 HAM(MIN) = survive for 10 segs
4x200=800 HAM(MIN) = survive for 10 segs (ouch no more HAM, TK dead)

We can use a doctor (all the time), but KD use mind too

I forgot to say that the red mobs that hit you for 400 are the easy ones, it's not a joke.

Usiso
MTK - Radiant

PD: Sorry for my english

I think that more people should email PC gamer. A nasty review will get the devs off their ass and rethink their approach to the ''melee'' class. We aren't a bunch of drunken street brawlers, we're TERAS KASI ARTISTS. We are supposedly the elite of the elite, the best of the best, in melee combat. If it were up to me, we'd be required to learn weapons to hit master TKA as well (traditional martial arts weapons.)

Yet instead, the devs have turned TKA into some gimped out street brawlers who hurt themselves more than the enemy. It's rediculous, pathetic, and outrageous. We should write PC gamer continually until this changes, or until we get a response from the devs.

I'm outraged that I have not see ONE, not ONE, dev response in this forum to any of our inquiries about the new patch. They're hiding in their cozy offices and counting their money. Punks.

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Ibova wrote:

Jesus people, its a game, just play it and have fun. There is nothing you can do about the changes that have been made, so deal with it. Sure im pissed about all the nerfing going on but you dont hear me compaining.I sill have fun with the game, you people are just mad because getting TK master will take more time. Im 3 boxes away from master and Im enjoying every bit of it. Its an adventure for me, so just get over it. I think its sad that people have already master 2 or 3 elite professions in just over a month. Thats WAY to fast if you ask me. They are trying to make it harder for you, more of a challenge, thats whay gaming is all about, just play the game and keep your mouth shut.

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So lemme get this straight...since, after all this time, you've been playing by the old rules and almost finished TK, we, who are just starting, should shut up?

Your argument blows...

Lemme put it this way...you're at work and your boss says that you need to start filing away papers. So off you go to file papers in the method that works best for you. After a couple weeks, your boss now says you need to do it in a manner he describes and it causes you to be three times slower...and now theres complaints about your lack of speed.

Fair, right? But at least in that situation, you're being paid so you be quiet and hope it gets better.

I'M GIVING THESE PEOPLE MY MONEY TO PLAY A GAME THAT IS NO LONGER FUN OVERNIGHT.

And I shouldn't complain?

Go back to your hole...

'be quiet and hope it gets better.'

My point exactly

It's amazing.

You snip out my entire argument and take one part out of context to prove your point?

I will not be quiet. I will shout to every place that will hear me at the injustice.

It's people like you that allow injustices to continue, y'know...

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edward Burke

I refuse to do nothing.

Im not flaming any body here. Im just saying play the game as it is.

And good job on judging two complete strangers Focusine

What I really want is the the developers to come out and tell us exactly how we hurt ourselves when we attack. Or, post-patch, how we hurt ourselves several times more than our opponent by attacking our opponent, many times putting ourselves near death...? What, do we slice our chest open with our knucks when we pull them back? So I trained to be one of the most elite, deadly unarmed combat masters in the known universe, but I can't control myself enough to keep from slicing myself open repeatedly? If my profession were drunken brawler than I would concede the point! And what about blasters? Do they smolder in your hands or something? Ham costs are a crock. But then again so are so many other things in this game... "slicing" weapons? Excuse me, but slicing in star wars is hacking computers, not weapon and armor tinkering. "Hey, if we put Han Solo in the game no one will even care!" must be their attitude. This game, while it was fun, has just about pushed me over the line. All it will take for me to quit and never, ever look back at this point is one tiny little thing to finish the job.

I can't wait for the PCG review, these SOE butt munches are going to get ripped a new one. And I'm going to be grinning from ear to ear as I read it.

Tcornwall said:

"I am a TKA novice and I realize that I need to work hard to get to be master to be able to kick real butt. I'm don't expect to be the best right at novice. If you expect that you are playing the wrong game."

Have you been reading the posts in this forum lately? The only real butt us master TKs can kick atm is OUR OWN. I expect it is you who are playing the wrong game unless this gets fixed.