Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Fencing VS TKM, and some extra tid bits.
bennybanglong wrote:
Yea, the Dodge that Fencer get is insane. I was missing 8 out of 10 shots when I was using a pistol. It took 3 people to kill the Fencer because he was blocking everything.
yes, im a fencer right now, and well what can i say, its sick as hell. i hit Cob and seriously your not going to touch me, flat out.
the part i dont get is when the TK hits center of being, i totaly exspect to miss the back side of the barn.
i only have 40 accuracy mods atm.
count it again 40.
vs his defensive acuity, i never missed him, so that tells me it is broken.
as for the mitigation deal, its stacks and its intended, so melee people are being forced to get ranged to compete, and not everyone wants to do that unfortunatly.
I swear I see these threads proclaiming how great fencers are and I just don't see it. I'm going to duelthe DFX fencer and see. We're both at the same level, him in fencing, me in Swordie. I think I can wipe the floor with him in a fair fight. I'm going to wait for him to get powerboost though so the fight lasts a little longer.
I do know fencer's are nothing in PvE. I watched one Grizzled Dew eat him alive, and I can turn those into puppt chow. I don't see why people run around claiming fencers are these combat gods. I think BOTH TKA and Swordie are better than Fencer. Poor fencers now have all the lamers trolling their forums for "The quickest way to get 1h xp", all because some TKM that afked his way to master on meatlumps only to bet beaten by a fencer when he tried to KD2 and hit3 spam his way to victory.
RhaineM wrote:
I can see where fencers are strong- but i just totalled a master 5 out of 5 matches. We dueled after me just gettming master 2 hours or so ago and it wasnt pretty for him. He landed all his hits but i outdamaged him by a lot. So calm down guys. TKA is still a very competitive profession, dont get anxious cuz fencers got some love.
hehe what do you mean? who said TKA was weak, im simply telling you that the other fighters are strong too.
listen if i can beat 5 experienced TKMasters with about 6 boxs into fencing, that tells me that something might be out of wack with the logic that TKA is godly over powered.
then again i did lose to a TKA not even tk master, so your guess is as good as mine.
i think your delusional no offense, and i mean that, no offense, when you think people are all up set. This is a debate, are you democrat? can't people talk about things and not get others to asume they are all upset.
i hate that so much, no ones upset. we are debating.
Awon wrote:
Ok one thing i wana clear up for those who are wondering where are these godly fencers that no one can hit. Well those are fencers/pistolneers and they are still pretty easy to beat if you duel them awhile. Most combo attacks will cause damage even if the fencer dodges. Do not try to kd them it would just b a waste of ham and warcry them once there center wears off they are pretty screwed.
aucutaly, you dont need fenceing and pistol to be godly.
im only 6 boxs into fencing, and you wont hit me, let alone knock me down.
i have no pistol, i have nothing else, but 6 boxs into fencing, master artisan, and master ch.
im beting people who have templates like
tkm
some swords
some fencnig
master brawler.
why? because dodge works, defensive acuity doesn't, and i thought they might have fixed it, i dont know, like i said orginaly i have not been on these boards for a long time. i asumed it got fixed, and you know what
1) defensive acuity is broken still
2) kd2 is buged, the dizzy is not scaleing correctly
Awon wrote:
Dude shut up with six boxes of fencer you would get **edit**ed up. Im a master fencer/Master tka/ 4/0/4/4 pistolneer and theres no way in hell you can beat a master tka with 205 accuracywith 6 boxes of fencer unless you got the dumbest **edit**iest tka's on the planet in your galaxy. I have dueled other fencers and i can beat the living crap out of them when im bare handed. A fencer can be kd easy if he didnt dabble into other combat professions. For a matter of fact tka's are about the only thing that can still hit me while im using a sword.
no way huh, im also not one of your "i just got off the boat pvpers"
i raised to captian just off fps from dbs, this is besides the point.
the point im making is one that you decided to dance around, and try to disprove me, which is not very nice to do.
and btw im not even tk right now, im fencing.
1) defensive acuity isn't working, but i think this is old news considering after reading several posts about the subject suggests the same.
like i said when i posted this, i was asumeing that the DA was working correctly, because it was patched. the reason i know this is because i only have 40 accuracy mods, hell master tks have more melee defense then i did mods.
2) i tested the kd2 set up, and dizzy isn't scaleing propperly, now if thats intended or not, but just wanted to make sure people were informed.
you are flameing me because im informing others? no ones calling for a nerf here
SweetShotArch wrote:
I'll make this quick and simple. Any TKM who cant beat a Blademaster needs to learn how to use his moves correctly. TKM > Blademaster easily... period.
ok mr exspert, ive been a TKM since nearly release, and you seem to know alot about TKs, explain how to use moves properly, and what moves you would be doing.
ok the clock is ticking.
Either you took what i said wrong, or i didnt express what i was thinkning clearly (late night). I am saying that i in no way seem to be facing the same difficulties as you must be. I have no problem beating other TKM's, TKM/Fencers, or any other combat professions. I ran a test today agains my good friend Ite, who is a TKM/high level fencer/high level swordsman, and i still beat here consistantly. So you being a TKM since release, and me being one for 2 days, should have no problems countering any PvP battle confog out there.
Once you hit TKM, there almost seems to be no point in furthering your skills as it is pretty close to perfectly balanced. We are fast and do good damage, but at the same time we are afflicted with high HAM specials andlow defense mods. That is a very competitive setup.
I know i jumped around a bit, and again its late. So i might just be fightin the wind with this post...
/Shrug