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Thread: Incapped By A Knocked Down NPC. **edit**???

sysfailur
Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:50 pm
#14

That's why a warcry KD is much better... I swear... USE IT! Warcry KD rocks!!



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GaiaMusashi
Thu Dec 18, 2003 3:35 pm
#15






Maharaja wrote:

Since the fix is mainly for the entire aspect of combat, combat is totally bugged as we all know, and since they already warned us that it would be quite hard sometimes, we could assume that this is all part of the problems with the patch being in a very early stage. It would be a long time for the fix, but there is nothing that we can do







i guess... i didn't want to look at it this way, but you're probably right.


i was hoping it was going to be hotfixed




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Nealoc187
Thu Dec 18, 2003 4:49 pm
#16

Exact same scenario happened to me last night. I rushed into a room of tuskens like I always do and KD dizzied them all. Lo and behold they are tryint to stand up. Crap. I killed all the others but the warlord kept standing up hitting me and falling back down. he finally nailed me while laying on his back and i was insta-slain. at least they made the fort harder now, it was too easy these last few months.



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GaiaMusashi
Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:08 am
#17

i like them getting back up, it provides a challenge that was missing for a while


i DON'T like the fact that every attempt they seem to get a shot at us...


its bad enough that people can attack at full speed/accuracy/damage while moving, but while dizzy and falling back down? i would think that while falling, a good sharpshooter would have a 1 in 1000 chance of grazing a target, or someone using a staff would hit maybe 90% weaker than a normal attack when planted on their feet... but the NPCs seem to hit full accuracy at full damage, no matter what.


i'm really hoping it's a bug... nobody should be able to attack unless they are in a state where they should be able to, and state shouldn't change until it's been determined that they aren't falling back down.




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Maharaja
Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:33 am
#18

It is not just a bug, because combat is totally bugged. Theyalready statedthat enemies will be extremely hard sometimes due to theimplementing of the bigcombat patch.It is only part1 of the 4 part combat fix, and it is totally screwed up and bugged until all 4 parts are implemented. So we can only wait till it is fixed. No need to mention bugs because they already warned us that until the whole patches are applied this would happen.



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GaiaMusashi
Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:35 am
#19

i understand about the creature balance, i knew things would be out of whack difficulty wise, but i didn't think this classified as that... if it does then great, we just have another 3-6 months until they finish the rest of the 4 steps at the speed it seems to be going, but if it is in factan error, i'd appreciate them fixing it =)





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Maharaja
Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:39 am
#20

Since the fix is mainly for the entire aspect of combat, combat is totally bugged as we all know, and since they already warned us that it would be quite hard sometimes, we could assume that this is all part of the problems with the patch being in a very early stage. It would be a long time for the fix, but there is nothing that we can do




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parplex
Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:50 am
#21

i get shot generally when they standback upright before fall. this is only a prob because im working on pistol xp, otherwise most(not all) hopefully would not get the chance(that ns almost did today).



if its a bug, whoohoo


if not,i guess i canget use toit and use morewarcry(it fails sometimes, but if I fail dizzy with kd2 i tend to warcry first then try manual dizzy or double war cry, if warcry hits and dizzy dosent you have 10 sec left to dizzy, so it works out. also i cant take out rooms along anymore very well, they all get back up ::cries::




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Droidtrainer
Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:17 am
#22

I got the same thing from a Tuskan Captain. KD/Dizzy WC(didnt stick of course) and hes doing a fish flop up and down and he incapps and kills me in one shot...can Mr. Heavy weigh in on this? Just to see if it is a new feature that will go in line with the rest of the combat changes, or if it is a new bug that needs to be investigated...



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Neclonmite
Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:24 am
#23

There was nothing wrong with this ability except maybe in pvp where you just die way too fast to get a 2nd or 3rd chance to stand.


In pve it was well balanced. tough npcs got up and easier ones did not. Simple as that. Why did they have to nerf it?

I for one really hope its a bug. Dizzy kd was in line in pve before.




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RhaineM
Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:19 am
#24

If you take a Breath of Heaven or a few Rhyschakes (spell? LOL) you are good to use warcry til it sticks. Tackes about 28 HAM per hit from me when im noce and full.. as any skilled combatant should know food buffs = pwn.


But i did notice the same thing when i was out killin NS spell weavers- they get a sneak shot in when they stand up and fall. But doesnt bother me too much. Long as I still get the damage mod and the dont force choke me.




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Natas999
Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:20 am
#25

woot i just got insta-db from a kd/dizzy mob lol.............annoying but funny



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Wamphyrri
Fri Dec 19, 2003 8:16 am
#26

"I would be okay with this...if WE got the same curtesy that NPCs are getting. OrDO we get to fire off a hit as we attampt to stand back up?"



Agreed.... NPC's fall under a completely different umbrella when it comes to combat.....Should give the doctors an "UBER"buff.... called the NPC enhancers.




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