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Thread: WT|= ?? TKM beaten by a rifleman easily pfft... and ppl say TKM is overpowered!!!!!!1

_Flash_
Sun Feb 15, 2004 12:04 pm
#14






clonecenter-resident wrote:





Phillkills wrote:

TKM/MDOC here, buffed myself to 3000+ in all primary and seconds, used powerboost and had


H -3100

S-3023

C-2800

A-3120

Q-2700

S-2800

M-1600

F-1100

W-800


Put on my 60% resist all comp armor, then went to go overt to fight some rebels.........


went overt and within 2 seconds was being hit with Master head shot doing 200-500 points of dmg......

my armor wasnt stopping a single bit of dmg........ **edit**? should that be hmmm.......... so i tried charging for him he was about 3-40 m away but only got 2 hits on him b4 my mind ran out and im dead on the floor....



People say were overpowered........ but come on if some1 is not wearing armor with unarmed3 we can do 400-700 points of dmg ish......if they have 80% resists kinetic which most do then we do 80-200


on top of that we have to be right up close, i hardly think its fair that comp armor doesnt stop the dmg of master head shot........we dont stand a chance unless we start 10 m away or have 3000 mind......


being killed within 10 seconds of a battle is not fun.....


I really hope that the combat fix patch will change PVP to make combat last longer







Hellooooo? McFlyyyy? Are you in there? That jawa ion rifle he was using was ignoring your armor because your uber composite isn't as uber as you think (see vuln. to stun.) Let's compare shall we, his RIFLE was ignoring your armor and did 200-500 points of damage to you, your FISTS when fighting someone without armor do 400-700. And you say that RIFLEMAN is overpowered?


So you think being killed within 10 seconds is not fun huh? Tell me have you ever been hit with your own dizzy/kd unarmed hit three combo? 3 seconds and your dead...easy.


What about this other guy saying that he was juggling 4-5 guys with dizzy kd's pretty handily untill the MRM came along and capped him? I guess that's just more proof that rifleman is overpowered huh? I mean, really, if a MRM can beatONE TKM who isjuggling 4 or 5 guys then obviously the rifleman is the overpowered one right?


Or what about the thread just below this one, you know, the one titled soloing a krayt?






uhh yea try that with 80% kinetic resist. Kite and run, thats how you beat a tkm. Okay lets put this into perspective. At rifles I-IV, I did decent damage. With a good laser, at rifles III or IV, I could hit 1k damage. With unarmed, the MOST I could ever hit way MAYBE 200 tops. Do you know how annoying the tka grind is? We shouldnt be overpowered, but we should be powerful, because we put a lot of work into it. Think about it, do you think It would be more painful to be shot by a hot laser or be stabbed in the head by a vibroknuckler. Every profession has its advantages and disadvantages. Learn them and use them against your enemies. If you or rifleman, let alone any other ranged profession, kite them. Stay farther than 25m or so form them and spam headshot until they die, then use sniper shot. If you are tka, hide in buildings and such and wait for the dude to come out and then kd+dizzy him and then kill.


I am really getting sick of the nerfing posts. I dont want nor have I ever wanted ANY profession to be nerfed, unless they were doing 600000000000 pts of damage in pvp. Why can't people just enjoy this game? This forum should be www.whiners_come_and_post_here.com.


IT'S ALL ABOUT TACTICS... Trying to remember this one dude from world history...lol.. It was about this commander who was fighting this one army who has many many many more men than him, but he arranged his men in a solid formation witha buldge in the middle, and when the dudes attacked the middle, they fell back and his men made a horseshoe formation then and got the enemy surrounded. Even though they had tons less men, they still won. Sorry if that was kind of off topic.


And that's it for world history 101, for homework, try to master another profession lol


Message Edited by _Flash_ on 02-15-2004 02:06 PM



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Rice-tha-Ice
Sun Feb 15, 2004 12:54 pm
#15

hmmmmmmmm i went to www.whiners_come_and_post_here.com but i got a message saying it didnt exist... somthing i missed?
Luskujun
Sun Feb 15, 2004 2:39 pm
#16

so much for positive feedback lol


Anyhow, basicly people have already figured out how to take advantage of their professions. And obviously you are a bit newer to the TKA pvp seen. Distance/buffs/armor/tactics are the things you need to start taking into consideration. Your PvE tactics are useless in pvp. Spamming hit3 will get you no where but dead.


Obviously ya upset a few peeps when you came on here, and they decided to make fun and flame you instead of help. Thats most likely due to the way you labeled your problem/gripe.


I would suggest that you find someone on your server that plays well with their TKA character and ask them how they handle things in pvp. Then give some thought before you decide to get yourself kited around like a mob, and use your strengths to your advantage.


And most of all, resist the urge to chase an enemy down over open terrain...lol


Good luck, and yes I know riflemen are evil... but so are we.


Laeren
Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:04 pm
#17

I would like to point out a portion of this screen shot that shocked the hell outta me. Names have been blanked out to protect the not-so-innocent.


http://www.rauha.com/upload/advstrafe.jpg

This was from a PC WITH 75% PVP reduction....


Riflemen have *nothing* to complain about. If this type of shot is acceptable to other professions, then definitely TKM is about where it needs to be.




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belegaraid
Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:05 pm
#18

i dueled a master sharpshooter today no buffs or armor just power boost he started 10 meters away within seconds beofer i could run to him to hit him once he hit me with advanced strafe twice over 1000 each time. i had to intimidate him which brought his damage down to only 500 which let me live for an extra 8 seconds before i was dropped
MattSalcetti
Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:33 pm
#19






Laeren wrote:

I would like to point out a portion of this screen shot that shocked the hell outta me. Names have been blanked out to protect the not-so-innocent.


http://www.rauha.com/upload/advstrafe.jpg

This was from a PC WITH 75% PVP reduction....


Riflemen have *nothing* to complain about. If this type of shot is acceptable to other professions, then definitely TKM is about where it needs to be.







Yeah okay so more then likely he started dueling with a jawa and noticed he wasn't hitting as hard...any rifleman who isn't hitting decently with the jawa is going to switch over to his T21 which your stun layered composite isnt nearly as effective against. Someone with 80% energy composite on would have taken ~230 damage, boohoo you got killed so they must be overpowered...boohoo you didnt get to run up unabated and dizzy/kd and kill them in 3 seconds so you must be understrengthed.

I've died as a rifleman from a TKM managing to dizzy/kd me and I've died as a TKM to master rifleman, but I don't whine about it, I don't let games make me cry.I'm both a TKM and a Master Rifleman, i know the strengths and weaknesses of each respective class. Better yet i know how to ACCEPT the frickin weaknesses while learning the PROPERLY EMPLOY the respective strengths.

Sasmaster
Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:11 am
#20






Luskujun wrote:

Anyhow, basicly people have already figured out how to take advantage of their professions. And obviously you are a bit newer to the TKA pvp seen.





Is that you have never SEEN TKA pvp or is it new to the SCENE?


Just trying to help.. you were tired when you typed it.. I know I know



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huxor
Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:27 am
#21

clearly tkm is a strong melee profession balanced in every aspect has dmg defense as well as nifty side skills such as force of will and power boost


but what the post creater didn't kno was about jawa ion rifles which are AP1 stun dmg and can be significantly upgraded with krayt tissues making it by far the best and cheesiest weapon out


even with a stun helm which has max potential of 45% if u have 1k all around materials u will most likely eat it in 5 shots or less (unbuffed) to an avg jawa dmg sliced. if its a krayt uber one ull pretty much die every time


and some people say that the cost of rifles is heavy on the mind u ever seen human players which if not all now run around with 1k-1100 focus and eat all the food they can get their hands on not to mention adding in muon gold and fire without much penalty to the mind which imo was suppose to be the limiting factor in firing rifles too many times at 1 given opportunity


i don;t have problems with riflemen as a class i personally think the jawa is a bit overpowered id think itd be fair to make it AP0 and keep all its other properties it will still be the best pvp weapon just not so dominant and the human bug of uncapped mind migration is beginning to annoy me as i am a poor trando stuck to the rules of 200 stats over ur base which every other race seems to follow


but hey if theres no exploits the game ain't very fun


just a stupid rant from a tkm who is sad that he cant catch riflemen even though has invested in very good armor and such


Rock' Lee

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Laeren
Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:15 am
#22






MattSalcetti wrote:





Laeren wrote:


http://www.rauha.com/upload/advstrafe.jpg

Riflemen have *nothing* to complain about. If this type of shot is acceptable to other professions, then definitely TKM is about where it needs to be.







Yeah okay so more then likely he started dueling with a jawa and noticed he wasn't hitting as hard...any rifleman who isn't hitting decently with the jawa is going to switch over to his T21 which your stun layered composite isnt nearly as effective against. Someone with 80% energy composite on would have taken ~230 damage, boohoo you got killed so they must be overpowered...boohoo you didnt get to run up unabated and dizzy/kd and kill them in 3 seconds so you must be understrengthed.



Actually, I was saying that TKM are balanced and in-line with riflemen.


However, this particular shot was amazing. It was with a Jawa rifle vs someone with 40% stun (initial shot was 1285, the armor resisted 581 ~ 40% resisted). And since the shot is in red, the damage is what got through (about 700 pts of damage).


Just sayin' riflemen got nothin to complain about. TK's don't either.




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