Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: Petition to have TKM lower BF with meditation

Nuttynoah
Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:59 pm
#14






VikaLine wrote:

I think its a bad idea, the Meditation line is already one of the best lines of any profession in the game


- heals poison

- heals disease

- heals bleeds

-self buff

-incap recovery (not guaranteed)

-heals wounds


If anything we should be happy we have all that we do in 1 single line





I agree with you thier, but at the same time i really donot see the point of BF in the game as it dose not really effect the game or make game play any better, so yes i think its was a silly idea to put it in the game in the first place, and so do the dev's most proberly? but they put it in for the Entertainer prof, and like they have done for other prof's like stat migration, the more we have to do in our prof's the more we feel need by other prof's...


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Atama
Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:39 pm
#15

No way.

Battle Fatigue is the one thing in this game that keeps people coming back to cities. Even an entertainer in a ranger camp can't heal BF. It should stay the one thing that limits us.



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Angel-Catcher
Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:08 am
#16

this is a good petition.


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hope it happens bye bye BF real good for master doc/master TK people
Iawo
Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:32 am
#17

No, I think it's a bad idea. It would be nice, but then you would have 50 billion (afk) entertainers screaming for a nerf.



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Isvurx
Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:35 am
#18

Actually i think that this is a good idea and I've always thought so.

It makes sense that someone can get rid of fatigue by meditating, a lot more sense than sitting in a cantina for 5 mins - I mean a cantina full of drunk people and entertainers all around.. i know i wouldnt feel very relaxed.


It's important though that this should be a master level skill so that all the dabblers that pick up 4000 or the likes do not get this advantage.


/sign
Boycarino
Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:27 am
#19

IF it were done it should only be done at Master. However, I think Meditation is already pretty cool. Any cooler and we are inviting a nerf. I personally like heading into Cantinas every now and again and interacting a little more.



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Oreet
Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:28 am
#20






KylaEri wrote:

high bf also lowers the effects of mrds and buffs.


I don't think any class should be completely self sufficient, and if we got rid of Battle fatigue, TKM would be. They would not need any healing from anyone at all.


I'm a tkm and I think that getting rid of bf is a bad idea.


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i completely agree with you. keep the battle fatigue in. we shouldn't be self sufficient, every profession in the game should have to rely on other professions in some way.
TravonLepen
Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:56 am
#21

I think if meditate lowered BF, Entertainers wouldn't have a real role other than to buff the mind. Everyone would take up the meditate tree in Teras Kasi and never need a doctor or a entertainer to heal themselves.



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FallenLore
Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:58 am
#22

It takes like a min to heal all your BF with a good dancer / musician group. We cant have it all you know, healing wounds itself is a nice skill. Adding something else to it will only take away other abilities of TKA. Plus its always good to support your local entertainers.



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vinterthoor
Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:56 am
#23

This would render Entertainers as useless. Mind buffs are really too weak as it is to be considered required, especially since food is just as good and more flexible.

Should even jedi be able to purge themselves of BF?



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Grimror
Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:24 am
#24






vinterthoor wrote:
This would render Entertainers as useless. Mind buffs are really too weak as it is to be considered required, especially since food is just as good and more flexible.

Should even jedi be able to purge themselves of BF?





Honestly, I find this quite humorous that the only reason the entertaining profession is not considered useless is because of the five minute period it takes me to go from 500+ BF to 0 BF simply because I want the number to be 0. BF and forced entertainer interaction is a minor annoyance at best and you can sit in a cantina AFK and your BF will go to 0 simply by sitting there. If they want to make entertainers worthwhile they would give them alot more utility in the form of buffs, ranging from regen buffs, +accuracy/+damage buffs, +def vs. xxx buffs, etc. As it is now, entertainers ARE useless. If you want to give a profession a role, make them actually bring something to the table rather than inventing some imaginary stat that does absolutely nothing to enhance gameplay other than force you to stop by the cantina for a few minutes while looking for new missions.
Grimror
Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:32 am
#25

On the "self sufficient" aspect, wow, this game already affords you the ability to solo 90% of the mobs in game or more if you are different professions. I can be a tka doc and be able to buff and heal myself, you are virtually 99.9% self sufficient as is, if you really wanted less self-sufficiency, you would require group tactics for more then just high end PvE and PvP. I find things like BF, wounds etc a form of virutual forced dependence that is essentially a non factor in game play. You can pretty much do all the important (things like grind vast ammounts of xp solo) things in this game for advancement on your own. Thats really the main problem I have with BF. If you wanted to force dependence on certain jobs, make them a necessary/useful profession to have in a hunting party, not some five minute afk/cooldown period.Ijust think BF issuch a non factor, having had 500+ quite a bit and not seeing any real difference or hinderance on my gameplay.Take it out and give entertainers a real role in this game.
seant9
Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:44 am
#26

Reading comprehension is your friend!


The suggestion is to give Teras Kasi MASTERS the ability to heal battle fatique with meditation. That nullifies the arguement that everyone could just take the meditation line and do away with entertainers. It gives a benefit to the master box, and while there are a lot of Teras Kasi Masters there are not enough to render entertainers useless. I say give the BF healing a very slow tick, if it is slow enough most will still choose to listen to or watch an entertainer if they are near a cantina. My biggest complaint obout battle fatique is it can't be healed by watching an entertainer in a camp!




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