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Thread: TKA is going to be nerfed....

bennybanglong
Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:34 am
#14

Took me 30 minutes just to get into Ft Tusken last night.


The mobs are shooting through walls now! I had to Feign Death about 5 times just to clear out the mob and to heal myself.


And every mob in there BLEED or Dizzy me. Good thing I 'm a Doc or I would have bleed to death

AlequaHaven
Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:46 am
#15

/clap


Props dood, well spoken....


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bennybanglong
Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:51 am
#16

A lot of profession are weak by itself. Pistoleer is a perfect example. It's one of the weakest hitting profession by itself but if you add Dirty Fighting from Smuggler or Expert BH, you have a killing machine that is as good as any combat profession.


TKA will get kited to death by itself but with Doctor Buff, you're a tanking machine. Now if you add Fencer and TKA, and get a Doc to buff you, you can stand there and take hits all day.

Ludakrishna
Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:56 am
#17






marteh000 wrote:


Its just one of the perks of TKA....ever profession has them




.......... /sigh



LilPup
Knocky
Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:02 am
#18






Ludakrishna wrote:





marteh000 wrote:


Its just one of the perks of TKA....ever profession has them




.......... /sigh






Polearm Sweep 2 to KD multiple targets at once


Polearm Spin Attack 2 to damage and dizzy multiple targets at once


Sure wish I had those attacks.


..................../sigh

Thalos77
Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:03 am
#19

we need either a major resist increase or a TKA elite-elite class.


speaking strictly PvE. I was under the impression that TKA were created to kill Jedi but I can't even KD an untrained padawan. I have to flamesingle2 him first then run like a pansy just to beat him. and don't get me started on nightsisters, I tried to solo a nightsister senty....light armor, 8k HAM, like 25% kinetic resist. I tried to KD2 her like 10 times b4 she force choked and force blasted my ass to oblivion. If we are designed to kill jedi and I can't kill a low level force user then we need some serious work


Amthalos - master Commando/TKM

DeneziB
Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:37 am
#20

"OH yea and one more thing, where the hell did you learn to do addition... IF YOU ARE HUMAN, your max mind can only be 1100 which would be a 550 boost NOT 650 "


Geez, the 5 is next to the 6 button on the keyboard. TYPO, children, TYPO. Are you really defending your argument bya silly 100 point typo? It's almost as bad as a spelling flame.


Please correct the 650, to 550. Geez.


"for all intents and purposes" means exactly what it means. There is no significant downtime in between powerboost, so you can go on to the next PB after it wears down.





marteh000 wrote:





DeneziB wrote:

(2) A human player can get a, for all intents and purposes, a PERMANENT 650 HAM buff to each stat. This is not neglible considering the typical HAM bar as less than 1000 points. You compare this buff to a doctor buff? Well, doctor buffs cost resources to craft, AND requires the assistance of another player. You can't buff yourself solo. You compare this buff to a food buff? Well, food buffs cost resources to craft, AND requires the assistance of another player. You can't food buff yourself solo.







I dont know how you can call powerboostpermanent, for one. Suppose i get into anPvP battle...do you really think that im going to take the chance to /peace and then meditate to use PB at the cost of half my mindbar for 1 minutewhile i have someone pounding on.Sure i can run around town all day and stop to meditate every so often to re-powerboost, but the fact of the matter is i dont think alot of people actully do that. Which also brings me to foods and buffs...


Ok buffs i can understand you saying that you need a doctor to buff and cannot do that solo (exception to TKM/DR). But when it comes to food how can you say, and quote: "you can't food buff yourself solo", THE HELL I CAN'T, sure maybe i have to buy a crate of a piticular food or drink but once i have it i can use when ever the hell i want as long as im not full from eating or drinking too much which usually by the time your food buff wears off so does your food and drink bars.


OH yea and one more thing, where the hell did you learn to do addition... IF YOU ARE HUMAN, your max mind can only be 1100 which would be a 550 boost NOT 650 (as far as i know humans can set there mind the highest at 1100... If im wrong you can flame the **** out of me)... for me, im a Zabrak and i can only boost my stats 500 each at a 1000 mind bar. Food, spice and buffs far surpass this in power and are available to everyone in the game just the same as TKA. Yes PB is not available to everyone but then again i can not eye shot, nor can i flame cone. Its just one of the perks of TKA....ever profession has them









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VikaLine
Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:51 am
#21

Listen PowerBoost needs no change its part of the class get over it, why would it have a downer anyway? Its also not like its INSTA BOOST!!! it takes on avg 1 to 2 mins for it to reach full effect. TK on paper seem overpowered but once you look at the fact that only our VK have any AP and take into account the fact we can only deal Kinetic Damage, we start to grow weak fast. Sure I hit for 1500 really fast, but im not actually hitting for 1500 once resists are taken into effect. To top it off we have the lowest def bonuses of any of the Melee classes pretty much, I have and never will understand why a Pistoleer has better Bonuses when there ranged users anyway. Were definatly not the worst of the Melee classes but were certainly not as strong as some people think we are. The reason were getting such a bad rap is the fact that there are more TK than other melee at the moment. But I can tell you this much im halfway thru the fencer tree and can already tell you I can take higher lvl mobs then a tk at the same lvl, not to mention if I blind my target then COB im pretty much untouchable.



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VikaLine
Sat Dec 20, 2003 2:09 pm
#22

Zmey I think a master fencer/brawler could beat a TKM anyday of the weak simply b/c of blind + dodge. Your defenses mean zip when the target cant be touched and I can pretty much promise you that your "not a chance in hell" mindset you are not fighting well played Master Fencers. Especially if they dabble the pistoleer def mod/dodge lines, thats pretty much a TKM's worst nightmare.




Vikaline
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-Tera Kasi Master
zRhyno
Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:57 pm
#23

Powerboost is as good as doctor health/action buff C's. as it is, PB alows us to significantly increase our HAM, for no costs. in addition, we also buff our mind pool, which takes longer for a full master musican/dancer to do.






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Morik
Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:04 pm
#24

TKA friends, look at the bright side of being nerfed (dont wanna type it, view the signature)

but yes we have no reason to be nerfed when we only hit a fencer using a WORKING cob about 50% of the time with like 210 accuracy on our side. But dang, nerf our novice damage and boost our master damage or something, and spread out meditation points. for gods sake every newb in newbville is dabbling or FotMing. Id rather be nerfed and a rare master than a common man among FotM'ers and dabblers. So yes, I dont mind being nerfed, but when they do it MAKE SURE they fix:
the spin attack, the being kited, our COB, and our NONWORKING defense acuity.

By the way, I think they fixed CoB but just screwed us over. i see my only counterattacks/dodges/blocks while NOT specialing. And they are in fact VERY FEW (far less than a fencer, thats for sure). I think this is due mainly to our non working defense acuity. CoB would stack on defense acuity if it worked, but since it doesnt work, cob is our ONLY defense and thus works rarely.



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Morik
Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:11 pm
#25

Denz I would venture to guess that you are NOT a tka... do you know how restrained we are by just kinetic? the DEVS EVEN SAID that thats why we are balanced. We have ONLY KINETIC AND AP1, while other profs get up to ap2. Thus we get our buffs and wound heal (which we NEED being that our defenses are ALL FREAKIN BROKEN). I will quit the day we cant heal our own wounds. All i can do is kinetic, i get little-no working defenses, and i take 1 hit from a rancor and can get a all but 1 pt on stats disease? I would quit. Even if defenses were fixed, fencer doesnt get hit and thus doesnt worry about wounds vs most mobs. I DO worry about wounds. I dont want to go to a doctor every 20 mins.

So lets do like that newb denz said and take away our buffs, our unincap, our wound heal, and all that. What are we left with? a gimped to hell prof with NO DAMAGE OVER TIME, and ONE DAMAGE TYPE. Dude look at our side. the reason we have so many joining isnt because of all our bonuses, its because you get freaking 70 novice damage instead of 30. before that people were like wow TKM congrats! because it was difficult. Now people are like blah another tkm with all the flavor of the monthers. ITS EASY to dabble when you get a +70 damage modifier when you hit novice. fix that and all the other probs of flooded prof go away. So if we take away all our meditative stuff, we better get 5 dot's and more than 1 damage like every other melee prof! Ugh.



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Thank God for all of you non-FOTM TKMs
Morik
Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:25 pm
#26

DeneziB now i am sure you are not a tkm. I wish i had an edit button to add my posts together but theres not one. First its for all "intensive" purposes, not intstsighsdoi or whatever you said. And for all INTENSIVE purposes (which means in reguards) THE ONLY reason i get BF healed is because i dabble in medic to heal my damage. And at about 450 i heal for about 90 (not 300). That doesnt cut it when im tanking ancient bull rancors. So make BF slow meditation wound heal. It doesnt eliminate a doc, just for us, since we take more wounds than any prof. We have the crappiest defense system, so fencer takes less because you miss them more. We dont do as much damage as a swordsman, who can hit as fast as a tka with a properly sliced sword, and for much more damage (2k damage when i hit novice and like 1 box). So Everyone has an advantage over us. Not to mention we do only kinetic, so anything resisting kinetic, we cant hit its vulnerability because we only have that, we have to take longer to kill it. Thus more wounds. Fencer and swordsman and pikeman (who nobody uses) can all get around this most of the time.

so it comes down to this

WE ONLY HAVE KINETIC
our defenses SUCK compared to most profs
we take wayyy more wounds "for all intensive purposes" due to the above problems and the reasons i gave before them.
We take WAY more damage for the same reasons as we take wounds.
The DOTS have a higher chance of landing because of the time it takes to kill most mobs with kinetic (and we dont have other damage types to get around this).

END OF ARGUMENT, sorry you're an idiot and have no argument.
"bla bla bla tka gets buff wound heal and dot heal" the first of which is in no way comparable to a realistic doc buff. and you conveniently fail to mention that we get nothing but kinetic, which changes MANY things. not to mention every real combat person dabbles in novice medic for the heal, which is screwed at 400 BF, (i heal whenever i get 400, aka a few deaths at most) because it halves your damage heal, and you wind up dead.

and you cannot ignore the upping or downing time of force of will. I have died because i hopped in as my buff drained, and my health was so low that the mob incapped me in 1 hit and then db'ed me because my force of will failed (AGAIN then a 1 hr timer). Or because i got attacked just after buffing preparing for a mob i would barely be able to take with it, and barely without it, then it killed me anyways because i was waiting for my buff to kick in and it attacked me in the meantime.

SO EVERYTHING You said is compensated in necesity by the fact that we only have kinetic.
Start whining when we have equal defenses to every other melee (aside from pikeman, give me a break nobody does pikeman cept by holo), 4 DOTs like most Melee, and 3+ damage types like most melee. Then COME AND WHINE baby, because ill be on your side.

The only real fix that NEEDS to be done to tka is shown in my profile.



Nal Do'Urden - Teras Kasi Master (Pre-Boost) - Master Architect
Shop at -3240 750 (Kintan Naboo)
If you dont find what you need, send in an Order.

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Former Master Smuggler
Former Master Doctor (Pre-Boost)

Thank God for all of you non-FOTM TKMs
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