Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: Lunge broken?

Yateswook
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:34 pm
#14

Are you serious! So swords seems pointless in pvp once again...



If your gonna ban me, next time at least let me do something worth banning!

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Psychopyro80
Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:21 am
#15



velocity-x wrote:
The description for lung has never indicated it is supposed to KD, I always thought it strange that it did.




Yes it did. Original decription was an extended range attack that has a slight chance to Knock Down your opponent.



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diff-edge
Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:44 am
#16

ouch!!



Then the rumor is right about the devs nerfing the melee professions...






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velocity-x
Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:00 am
#17



Psychopyro80 wrote:


velocity-x wrote:
The description for lung has never indicated it is supposed to KD, I always thought it strange that it did.




Yes it did. Original decription was an extended range attack that has a slight chance to Knock Down your opponent.




Pre or Post CU?



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Yateswook
Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:06 am
#18


Why should we be nerf! Swords was finally made great post cu, I could actually pvp and not get my but handed to me all the time...
Why would they Nerf melee, there are hardly any of us! Everyone went ranged.. If Melee gets any more screwed up My Doc/Swords template will be even more stupid now then ever.




If your gonna ban me, next time at least let me do something worth banning!

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quitch
Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:50 am
#19






velocity-x wrote:





Psychopyro80 wrote:





velocity-x wrote:
The description for lung has never indicated it is supposed to KD, I always thought it strange that it did.






Yes it did. Original decription was an extended range attack that has a slight chance to Knock Down your opponent.






Pre or Post CU?




its supposed to make them KD now it doesnt.



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Yateswook
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:22 pm
#20

Then we need a KD ability.... At least with Master swrods.. I mean come on I swing a huge power hammer at someone they got to go down at least once.



If your gonna ban me, next time at least let me do something worth banning!

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Iwof
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:29 pm
#21






Psychopyro80 wrote:
OK all, Officially the response is

Lunge was never meant to actually have a knockdown effect, therefor it was changed to reflect what it was meant to do.




So what was it meant to do? Nothing...



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Epifany
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:49 pm
#22


Actually the current lunge that's available to us used to be split into different versions in the old system under the Master Brawler box. The were called "2h lunge2", "1h lunge2", "polearm lunge2". ALL of these had the ability of knocking down an opponent. It's one of the reasons why so many that went swords had to master brawler to be even viable in PvP.



If that ability isnowtaken away as a basic of combat, what box is it under now and how do I get it?


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Martimus
Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:05 pm
#23

Lunge always caused a posture down change. It worked well because it allowed us to catch up/counter roots of currently overpowered ranged professions. What gets me is how they just decided to silently nerf it. This is a HUGE issue for all melee classes, and they do not even tell us about it in the notes !!! This is a serious oversight !!! Fencer gets screwed even more, because their advanced version is one of the move is one of their principal moves. (in master box).

SWG is one of the only MMORGP games that when a new patch comes out, one of the first thing that I think of is...."What the hell did they screw up this time ?!".


It is things like this that make me seriously question the competence of SOE design team, and lack communication between players and developers.
Sadly, I can tell you that If I ever see "SWG game designer" on any resume its heading straight for the trash.



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Psychopyro80
Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:52 am
#24

OK all, Officially the response is

Lunge was never meant to actually have a knockdown effect, therefor it was changed to reflect what it was meant to do.



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Arcadias
Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:49 am
#25






Psychopyro80 wrote:
OK all, Officially the response is

Lunge was never meant to actually have a knockdown effect, therefor it was changed to reflect what it was meant to do.





Bahhhh...



Will there be a ThrowPillow cert in brawler? (Yeah, I know there are no certs anymore...)



I did understand why the Dizzy-KD stuff was removed. But since KD isnt that hard anymore: Why remove it from lunge? It was the best way to counter a kiting ranged toon. I know this is all about group-play and a good group (with at least one toon too root or snare) it is not that big of an issue. But it is still a nerf. Even worse: A silent nerf. I hate that.






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atariboy
Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:29 am
#26

seems to me that SOE are getting paid for nothing and are just screwing up the game rather than making it better. All combat levels should be fair and they arent now that lunge has been taken away.
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