Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: This Just IN...TKM are the new Jedi Hunters....
JohnyCrash
Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:48 pm
#14
How many TKM's here are also Smuggler's? I am, and a while back when I heard smuggler's may find themselves on BH terms I laughed, and said bring it on...as we all know BH isn't exactly a scary pvp profession.
But now that BH's will have the ability to become Master Riflemen, or Master Pistoleers to go along with their already uber pistol special(eye shot), I'm starting to worry about my future criminal activities...lol
-Jony
Master Smuggler, Pistoleer, TKM
But now that BH's will have the ability to become Master Riflemen, or Master Pistoleers to go along with their already uber pistol special(eye shot), I'm starting to worry about my future criminal activities...lol
-Jony
Master Smuggler, Pistoleer, TKM
Pvt
Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:09 am
#16
My current template
4004 Lightsaber
4440 Fencer
0030 Medic
Teras Kasi Master
Message Edited by Pvt on 07-01-2004 01:10 AM
Larki
Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:37 am
#17
RamhornSWG wrote:
We, the BHs, are wrokign to move Jedi missions to MBH. We need some WORTH for MBH. We never asked for the scout lines to be removed. JustG is a damn fool. he has made BH less of a profession and more of an extra skillbox anyone can get, you can take all we have now.
That's not right and hopefully JustG will understand this and stop this madness.
Speak for yourself, not all BH.
Don't think you read our forum did you? There was like a vote of 300 posts and 80% were /agree
The only tree in the Bounty Hunter profession that deals with tracking Jedi is the Invest tree.
Pistols, Carbines and the gimped LLC have nothing to do with being a Bounty Hunter.
Add in these 3 facts as of publish 9.
1. Jedi block 95% of ranged attacks.
2. There is a 5 second delay for switching weapons.
3. Jedi's weakness is melee attacks.
If your a MBH and need a "reason" to keep it, I would suggest you try to get specials and mods added to your master box.
Yeah because we haven't been trying for, what, a year now for that?
An arguement could be made for moving the Jedi missions to invest 4.
Why stop there? The MBH needs to have some worth and at the moment, all that BHs have is Jedi missions. So move it to MBH, simple logic.
But if a player decides to go MBH or BH 4/0/0/0 both have spent the same amount of time and skill on invest.
True. I like this logic, good show. BUT time is not the factor here, the useless of MBH is. And now with this skillpoint reduction even more has been taken from us.
Skills in 3 ranged weapon classes with jedi ranged defenses and the delay timer is not effective.
Yep, that is our problem, and soon I hope, the Jedis problem as the devs shoudl realise this blocking crap is out of control. Or they coudl replace all the BH weapon likes with TKA skills. Yeah that would be stupid.
Master TKA/ Fencer 4/0/0/0/ BH 3/0/0/0
If this is more effective than waiting 15 seconds to switch between 3 ranged weapons that wont hit, so be it.
Larki
Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:44 am
#18
Und3rd0g wrote:
Larki wrote:
We, the BHs, are wrokign to move Jedi missions to MBH. We need some WORTH for MBH. We never asked for the scout lines to be removed. JustG is a damn fool. he has made BH less of a profession and more of an extra skillbox anyone can get, you can take all we have now.
That's not right and hopefully JustG will understand this and stop this madness.
**edit** r u talking about....you dont use those 3 lines anyway...tell me.. do you:
- Use traps on NPCs or marks?
- What bonus's do you recieve from hunting that benefits BH?
- Honestly how often do you use your camps?
OHOHOHOH ME! I can answer these!
- NO!
- None!
- Rarely, considering we have full time buffs now
Plus side:
You've beening crying we dont get enough SP like commandos are left w/ and your profession is broken...
You can specialize in a specific weapon type or get some melee skills now and still master BH..
Scratched off 3 lines you dont use in BH profession, and if you used them and like them so much, you have 81 sp left...USE THEM!!!
The devs are trying to help you guys, theyve obviously analyzed the scenario or wouldnt have done a move like this, and see its in the best interest, and for the most part the BH community likes it except for the few sour patches...
Our collective hearts weep..
Well done you dolt. You have managed to miss the point entirely. WELL DONE!!! The point is, and I'll try keep it simple. BHs LIKED THE LARGE SKILLPOINTS NEEDED. WE *LIKED* IT. It made those who climbed the BH ranks have a sense of accomplishment, because we were so dedicated to use almost all of our skillpoints. We would have rathered seen BH imporved rather than cheapened. That is exactly how the profession feels now, "cheapened".
Oh and I found the bit highlighted in yellow especially funny. "theyve obviously analyzed the scenario or wouldnt have done a move like this" yeah because this is what we wanted, we didn't want say, OO LOOK A LIST IS COMING:
- LLC changed to a rifle so the marksman rifle line is not wasted
- Human Traps (WE WANTED TRAPS)
- Give MBH a special that does damage (Fast blast is simply crap)
- <Insert any one of the numerous top ideas we had>
Look on our forum please - fornext time.
Barryster
Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:25 am
#20
Bounty Hunters are the biggest whiners of all! Yes, BH needs improved butwhy are we spamming the TK board w/ our crap??
Ba'le Kenyon: MBH Corbantis /Roheki Othebo: TKM Flurry
Und3rd0g
Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:33 am
#21
Larki wrote:
Und3rd0g wrote:
Larki wrote:
We, the BHs, are wrokign to move Jedi missions to MBH. We need some WORTH for MBH. We never asked for the scout lines to be removed. JustG is a damn fool. he has made BH less of a profession and more of an extra skillbox anyone can get, you can take all we have now.
That's not right and hopefully JustG will understand this and stop this madness.
**edit** r u talking about....you dont use those 3 lines anyway...tell me.. do you:
- Use traps on NPCs or marks?
- What bonus's do you recieve from hunting that benefits BH?
- Honestly how often do you use your camps?
OHOHOHOH ME! I can answer these!
- NO!
- None!
- Rarely, considering we have full time buffs now
Plus side:
You've beening crying we dont get enough SP like commandos are left w/ and your profession is broken...
You can specialize in a specific weapon type or get some melee skills now and still master BH..
Scratched off 3 lines you dont use in BH profession, and if you used them and like them so much, you have 81 sp left...USE THEM!!!
The devs are trying to help you guys, theyve obviously analyzed the scenario or wouldnt have done a move like this, and see its in the best interest, and for the most part the BH community likes it except for the few sour patches...
Our collective hearts weep..
Well done you dolt. You have managed to miss the point entirely. WELL DONE!!! The point is, and I'll try keep it simple. BHs LIKED THE LARGE SKILLPOINTS NEEDED. WE *LIKED* IT. It made those who climbed the BH ranks have a sense of accomplishment, because we were so dedicated to use almost all of our skillpoints. We would have rathered seen BH imporved rather than cheapened. That is exactly how the profession feels now, "cheapened".
Oh and I found the bit highlighted in yellow especially funny. "theyve obviously analyzed the scenario or wouldnt have done a move like this" yeah because this is what we wanted, we didn't want say, OO LOOK A LIST IS COMING:
- LLC changed to a rifle so the marksman rifle line is not wasted
- Human Traps (WE WANTED TRAPS)
- Give MBH a special that does damage (Fast blast is simply crap)
Look on our forum please - fornext time.
Well I can recall many of times where Ive lurked over in BH forums for w/e reason and read some post about "how commandos are left w/ 81 sp and we are left with 18" or "Give us some pre-reqs we use" or other topics or replys like that....simple fact is this is a start for you guys and they will fix your profession, how do you have any sort of idea whats in store for BHs in CB? You dont have a clue, like the rest of us..or if you do please school me a little. I hear you on the LLC becoming an LLR. Human traps? When has jango or boba used a "human trap" similar to the ones we use on creatures to take down a mark? Name it please, id like to know what book/movie this is from and what the name of the trap was called and what type of trap was it. Also You dont have to go around trapping creatures to become a BH in RL or in te SW universe, therefor why make BH mroe costly with stuff they dont need? Specialize in a specific weapon type you prefer...like most BH do...the devs r giving you the chance...I believe Boba used pistoles and Jango prefered Carbines... Give it time the CB isnt even here, you guys gota starting fix which is more than what pistoleers got?
I dont wanna argue w/ you m8, lets all wait for the CB to see whats in store.
RamhornSWG
Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:54 pm
#23
RamhornSWG wrote:
We, the BHs, are wrokign to move Jedi missions to MBH. We need some WORTH for MBH. We never asked for the scout lines to be removed. JustG is a damn fool. he has made BH less of a profession and more of an extra skillbox anyone can get, you can take all we have now.
That's not right and hopefully JustG will understand this and stop this madness.
Speak for yourself, not all BH.
Don't think you read our forum did you? There was like a vote of 300 posts and 80% were /agree
Yeah I read the post. Funny thing was the results when you take out the posters who are Jedi and not BH. 
The only tree in the Bounty Hunter profession that deals with tracking Jedi is the Invest tree.
Pistols, Carbines and the gimped LLC have nothing to do with being a Bounty Hunter.
Add in these 3 facts as of publish 9.
1. Jedi block 95% of ranged attacks.
2. There is a 5 second delay for switching weapons.
3. Jedi's weakness is melee attacks.
If your a MBH and need a "reason" to keep it, I would suggest you try to get specials and mods added to your master box.
Yeah because we haven't been trying for, what, a year now for that?
Yes I understand. The bounty hunter community has been asking for improvement for a year. Guess what? Nothing has been done. So you want to wait another year to shore up the MBH box to make it effective instead of using skill points to make yourself more effective?
An arguement could be made for moving the Jedi missions to invest 4.
Why stop there? The MBH needs to have some worth and at the moment, all that BHs have is Jedi missions. So move it to MBH, simple logic.
Why stop there? Because its the last box that has anything to do with player tracking. Carbines, Pistols and a gimped LLC have nothing to do with tracking.
Your logic is I am not giving up my MBH title even though it is not effective. I want the world to rotate around me instead of changing my skills. About right?
But if a player decides to go MBH or BH 4/0/0/0 both have spent the same amount of time and skill on invest.
True. I like this logic, good show. BUT time is not the factor here, the useless of MBH is. And now with this skillpoint reduction even more has been taken from us.
The useless of MBH is...... see the first response about waiting until 2005.
Nothing has been taken away from you. The entire Bounty Hunter professions ....skills, trees and specials is the same as it has been for months. /gasp
Skills in 3 ranged weapon classes with jedi ranged defenses and the delay timer is not effective.
Yep, that is our problem, and soon I hope, the Jedis problem as the devs shoudl realise this blocking crap is out of control. Or they coudl replace all the BH weapon likes with TKA skills. Yeah that would be stupid.
Where is it in your Star Wars manual that states a Bounty Hunter can only use ranged weapons?
What would make more sense ..... since we are in a dream world....is to make the entire Bounty Hunter profession just deal with things like tracking, defenses against jedi, player traps.....etc
Then a player could pick offensive skills they liked melee or ranged.
Not trying to rant on you but this mantra of a Bounty Hunter has to use this kind of weapon because I say so gets old.
Master TKA/ Fencer 4/0/0/0/ BH 3/0/0/0
If this is more effective than waiting 15 seconds to switch between 3 ranged weapons that wont hit, so be it.
Und3rd0g
Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:06 pm
#24
The way I see it is...you can be a cloned BH wear every single BH is the same i.e.
Master Scout/Master Marksman/Master BH
Or you could add some flavor todepict what RL BH are...theyre not specialist in every weapon type...yes they can use any rifle, pistol, machine gun...but most of them specilize in a specific weapon..which what the devs are doing here..allowing BHs to become more unique....to hunt down a Jedi Knight...no MBH will do this alone, you cant, take a MBH Pistol specialist, a MBH Rifle Specialist and a few other BH blends, put the players in a group and youve got strong team. All specializing in their fortay all adding to the group more well rounded team...a Group of Rifle Specialists will be great at distance but once that jedi catches up...your vulnerable...
To the few who cry "you deminishing our profession" heh I must say....the mastering of scout is not much of a sense of achievement...I mastered marksman in a day not even grinding it...hunting on endor...scout was even easier, just get with a Group and your set....so your "by taking away scout, your making it easier" arguement is slapped down now.
Oh and Im going for MBH/Mpistoleer/Medic 0010 now
THANK YOU SOE FOR ADDING SOME VARIETY TOTHE PROFESSION!! I WAS BEGINNING TO THINKIT WASMORE CLONES THAN PCs.
Pana_Cebo
Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:53 am
#26
You BHs are forgetting the real reason for this change... it wasnt to help current bounty hunters at all but really just to entice more people to become BH and hunt jedi. The devs made a mistake by allowing so many people to become jedi and now they are trying to counter it by enticing people to dabble in BH. The devs WANT people to be TKM and 3000 BH to keep the jedi population down.
Anyways, teras kasi artists have a better reason to hunt jedi than bounty hunters continuity-wise. TKA's were created to hunt jedi.