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Thread: TKM PvP template help

zepzar
Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:34 am
#14

Thanks for all the input so far,keep em coming.
RangerSoul
Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:22 am
#15

One alt I have is a TKMwith swords (and dancer/artisan), level 68. I love being a tank so this is great. If i need to do some extra damage then I whip out the bad ass sword (600 to 1000 damage or so).


Now, I was a TKM/master swords for about two weeks during the CU. That was a blast...can you say POWERHAMMER! I would really dish out some damage then.


I miss medic with this template though. Thats my choice to keep two non combat skills, you could pick up CM or DOC and do well.


I dont have much experience in PVPthough with this template. I assume that if my opponents stay out of my reach I will take a beating, especially since I have no med skills.


good luck!




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Raos_Orsiri
Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:12 pm
#16

not to take anything away from MCM as im still im limbo if to go for it not, but Sony will no doubt ruin MCM in respect of it wont be as good as it currently is, but maybe that's way down the line.



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Kismet81
Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:13 pm
#17

Best TKM template I've seen to date: (also the one I use)


TKM / swords 0/0/3/4 / fencer 0/0/4/0 / doc 4/0/0/4 I use sliced Katarn Knucklers


This gets you to CL 80 too.


Swords 0/0/3/4 gives you the best armor break + critical strike

Fencer 0/0/4/0 gives you the melee defense tree + blind hit

Doc 4/0/0/4 gives you the healing tree + the buff tree


With BE clothing and BEFORE foods my melee defense: is 306 ranged: 270


Buff yourself with your doc buffs. Apply Blind + dizzy + armor break and go to town.. If you get in trouble, your first tree in doc will provide you with awesome heals. Plus your ridiculous defenses will keep you alive for a long time!



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Redondo
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:36 am
#18

Kismet killed me three or four timesyesterday, lol. I am TKM/Master Pike/4000Doc. I may steal your temp Kismet and check it out during my respec period, but I am really liking the pikes. I enjoy my template and still being a little green in PvP I find it to be pretty good for me. I find that it comes down to better players more often than better templates when I win or lose. Playing around with my respec now I feel like there area number of melee combos that will be effective overall in PvP, but I find that healing is the key to survival. I think against high end PvPers though Kismet's temp and the TKM/MCM temp are going to give you the most template wise, albeit two totally different styles of play.



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alias77
Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:45 am
#19

TKM/MDOC/0031 Swordsman beats the TKM/MCM combo

CM dots are a joke if a doc buffs himself against poisen and diseaseds.
only fire is a littel bit nasty but a doc can heal this fast and with no problem.

2 days ago i fought aganist a master pikeman/master combat medic (full with speed tapes).

that means:
- 1k max damage pike (that hurts)
- -80 combat speed (-40 from cm/-40 from pikeman-warcry....slow motion fight ^^)
- intimidate (i removed this stat all the time)
- P&D (because of P&D buffs not danger)
- fire (i removed this stat all the time)

it was a long fight but never dangerous for me. my mind was full all the time, my health was never under 50%.



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Redondo
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:39 am
#20

yeah but Doc is the key to that temp then. I dont think jedi can heal fire and most people I run across in PvP are jedi. I'm also pretty sure that doc buffs only reduce CM debuffs by half, which means you are still at an advantage with CM. The nice thing about Doc is you can be effective at 4004, but CM really doesnt shine until Master. I've hit up to 380 with my deuterium enhancers. Like I said before I think it is just a matter of how you want to play. TKM/MCM is going to play very differently than TKM/other melee/healing. Personally I think TKM/MCM would be a lot harder template to play since it relies on a lot of timing to make your CM attacks worthwhile.



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Dennyboy
Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:23 pm
#21



i have been almost lots of combos for melee proffesion. I was TKM Mswords doc 4xxx TKM Mpikes doc 4xxx and xxx4 and 1xx2 and etc.


For PVP i found TKM Mpikes and doc 4xxx very good overall. Although Mswords is higher dmg noone can hate -40 combat speed from warcry. This is good PVP (mswords is better solo pvp) in groups and in solo. But pikes is much better in Mass War. (I have been in many wars with lots of diff temps.) Pikes is better overall seeing as you must PVE once in a while and it has better defense. Go TKM MPIKES and best healing you can get.


PS Armor Break is a MUST. It helps ALOT.

Message Edited by Dennyboy on 09-13-2005 04:24 PM

Message Edited by Dennyboy on 09-13-2005 04:24 PM



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JeetBadwarrior
Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:50 pm
#22


Im glad you found that temp to your liking i was a tkm/pike/doc 2/0/0/2 not bad temp but no advance armor break hammpers the temp....i have better acc. better defbetter speed, health,action, mind buffswith my current temp add in a action debuff, advance armor break...but if it works for u glad to hear it i found it some what not the pvp power house do to the skill point loss on picking up the line of pikes that sits there all by itself...and the only thing in tk that worth it is x4xx if your using a pike, sword , or baton, id move those other 33 points into some thing more useful...

Message Edited by JeetBadwarrior on 09-13-2005 02:57 PM



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haydyn
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:51 am
#23






JeetBadwarrior wrote:


Im glad you found that temp to your liking i was a tkm/pike/doc 2/0/0/2 not bad temp but no advance armor break hammpers the temp....i have better acc. better defbetter speed, health,action, mind buffswith my current temp add in a action debuff, advance armor break...but if it works for u glad to hear it i found it some what not the pvp power house do to the skill point loss on picking up the line of pikes that sits there all by itself...and the only thing in tk that worth it is x4xx if your using a pike, sword , or baton, id move those other 33 points into some thing more useful...

Message Edited by JeetBadwarrior on 09-13-2005 02:57 PM





No disrespect to any you guys but using TKM does give some fantastic defense and speed mods maybe more than any other prof so to work right it must be coupled with another melee prof. Ive been just about every single possible melee combination u could think of and have PvE'ed, PvP'ed and the strongest overall balance ive found is


TKM/MPike/Swords0030/Mbrawler/Medic0040 Remaing SP in melee speed FS tree


Now ive heard all the "OH u need major healing to be viable in PvP" my answer to you is this


with medic 0040 coupled with BE Healing efficiency clothes i heal for 900+ every 5-6 seconds plus i carry Stim's and Ruby for extra security.


As for Specials what more do you need? you have advanced AB,Improved Impale,CoB,Spin Attacks,Area KD, Warcry and Intimidate plus decent but not uber healing plus in general i have a better melle speed and acc than most but point being is this


I got load ganked by a Full temp jedi with 4040 Defender and 4000 healing so imagine my surprise when my screen cleared and i was on my back getting pasted. So i managed to get up hit my panic macro which takes all my foods and activates CoB macro, heal myself for 2800 in 6 secs using 2 bactas and a stim then bout 15 secs l8r I was DB'ing said Jedi.


PvP is not all about templates but you get so much more from masteries and good tactics and knowing how to stack foods and stack states and attacks on your opponentthan having the best template. I've pwned Mdef, MLS's cause they cant PvP so learn to use ur template and practice its really the only way you will succeed. I also have a Frap of that jedi kill i'll post when i get home but im at work just now.





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JeetBadwarrior
Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:45 am
#24


points are well taken with your temp....i do like mine better and it proved time and time again to be effective for me...agaist all sort of jedi and all sort of reg proffs.....


which is doc 4xxx4 swords xx34 tkm fencer xxx4


not sure what the base stats are cause im heavy loaded with ca's and be clothes


I get 3 nice damage special in head hit imporved crital and advance combo


heals for any where from 1350 to 1400........which in the long run saves mind


buffs of action mind a heath and with the 20% from booster blue I can hit for a long time and regen just as fastand to to metion speed buff which lets me just as fast as any double mastery


of course improved armor break, a bleed if i need it but not really worth it, a dizzy stat which helps a bit, sword furry which i use to get the 80 defense wilst i regen action


and of course my ace in the hole which is the action debuff i usally hit em after the half way down in action they dont notice till it 2 late and have to fight with lowaction...to it just as good as warcry cause it doest allow them toget a good combo of specials offand the ole you are to tried to recover from a knockdown


and of course food like ruby, vaybrok, pita pie, blob candy, bofa treat (all tho i found a beter food last night then this) spice tea...syth steak, exo protien wafers, air cake, crispic, and few other can make the diffenece in victory or defeat



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iijin
Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:56 am
#25

I am TKM / CM / Swords... I do pretty well in any PvP, the only melee folks that give me trouble are the old pre-CU uber hammer guys that really pound anyone. Even then its just a really good fight, I walk on most newer TKM / Swords guys...I play different than most of your FotM MCM / TKM guys do though, probly because I have had this templateand various different versions for about 4 months now...you will never see me paralyze and waste the hell out of my mind fully de-buffing someone...I found Dot's are not really worth my time or mind...paralyze is best used as crowd control...it pays to feel your opponent out and target his weakness.


That said....I think any template can be very effective, as long as you know how touse it...



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CrespoOfBria
Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:35 am
#26






Mansun wrote:






MasterGettingOnTerms wrote:
hmm what do u guys think of TKM/Swords/ Doc 4000?





it is a good allaround template, thats does very well in both PvP and PvE... but for the pure PvP template... TKM/MCM...

Message Edited by Mansun on 09-09-2005 04:26 PM





I destroy TKM/MCM.


And I am a TKM, with some other skills, that i refuse to give away.





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