Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: i thought tk did little damage after CU?
Page 2 of 2
chelseascum
Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:03 pm
#14
Pfft, so what? If I get a rare, looted item I can just about outdamage a profession that I should be able to outdamage with just a 10k vibroknuckler. Woo. I'm sure the TK population is real psyched about that. TK damage needs fixing, and just adding more damage to the Katarn knuckler is not nearly enough.
jiro09
Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:14 am
#15
quitch wrote:
i understand all but this sentence, and i agree with most of your points
chelseascum wrote:
If I get a rare, looted item I can just about outdamage a profession that I should be able to outdamage with just a 10k vibroknuckler.
the profession he is refering to in the above post is pike. the statement refers to the fact that pikeman are rated "2" offense and tkm a "3". therefore a tkm should be able to outdamage a pikeman with out a rare looted weapon.
Mondublaumblagota
Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:49 am
#16
TK has a lack of specials, but not a severe lack of damage. I'm TKM / master Swordsman / Pike 0440, and I always use TK. TK mixed with advanced critical hit and head hit (combo attack also) out damages all the swordsman and pikeman I have ever faced post-CU. Move for move, yes a swordsman can hit harder, but a TKM can do the power moves faster. Even TK (i always use katarn) with the melee hit and melee strike can do very good damage over time. I can beat about 50% of the jedi i face with TK, and 100% of the swordsman and pikeman.When they have4xxx doc, it just makes the match longer, as all they can do is heal from the damage I put out (from using the power attacks with the speed of TK), and they're mind slowly ticks away, leaving me the ability to intimidate (if needed), KD, critical hit, head hit, combo attack...... And as Picofarad said, once they fix elemental damage, Katarns with be better than the great weapon they already are. chelseascum, TK should not be able to outdamage other professions with a Vibroknuckler, as it is for NOVICE TK. And Katarn is not a rare, looted weapon, everyone can get one with just doing the ryyat trails quest. The Necrosis knuckler is rarer, as it is a random drop from N-K. It is easy to get however, as you have a 1 in 4 chance I believe, got mine on my frist try. With the katarns damage and SAC cost (75, can be lower with a SAC powerup), attack speed (mine is 1.14, I've seen lower), and damage (715 + 120 elemental = 835, matched with the speed gives me 575 dps), and TK defense, you will be able to beat most of the people you face, assuming you have skill. jiro09, a good VL IS a rare looted item. Most of the VL's looted are junk. Fencer has the same situation as TK, and again all they have to do is a quest to get their best weapon. Swordman use crafted powerhammers, which has a requirement ofmasterswordsman, which are fairly common to get a good one (assuming you have the credits, as they are not free like the katarn), but still, check out the SAC cost on a powerhammer. without a SAC powerup you are a slave to your action (and with force sap and stun, you might as well give up). with a SAC powerup, hammers are better, but still have a high SAC. TK is the best IMO.
jiro09
Sat Jun 11, 2005 1:45 pm
#17
Mondublaumblagota wrote:
jiro09, a good VL IS a rare looted item. Most of the VL's looted are junk. Fencer has the same situation as TK, and again all they have to do is a quest to get their best weapon. Swordman use crafted powerhammers, which has a requirement ofmasterswordsman, which are fairly common to get a good one (assuming you have the credits, as they are not free like the katarn), but still, check out the SAC cost on a powerhammer. without a SAC powerup you are a slave to your action (and with force sap and stun, you might as well give up). with a SAC powerup, hammers are better, but still have a high SAC. TK is the best IMO.
that may be true. however, crafted VLs can be quite good. pre-CU, they are even better. i picked up 5 very good VLs for about 10K a piece. this is slowly changing as sellers update their prices. as you recall VLs pre-cu were not so good. they did convert very well though. but that is not the point...
the point is that i did more damage over a longer period of time (due to action costs)using a pike while performing swords and pikespecials. until,that is,i received the KK. ( i take back calling it rare. but it is not easy to get. the katarn hits hard)
the main argument still stands. pure TKM (due to their lack of specials--point to you ) does less damage than a pure pikeman. it all comes back to the 2 vs 3 thing....
) does less damage than a pure pikeman. it all comes back to the 2 vs 3 thing....i am not hating on TKM. i love it. it is the back bone of my toon. i just don't use it to kill things.
Logray
Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:35 pm
#18
chelseascum wrote:Pfft, so what? If I get a rare, looted item I can just about outdamage a profession that I should be able to outdamage with just a 10k vibroknuckler. Woo. I'm sure the TK population is real psyched about that. TK damage needs fixing, and just adding more damage to the Katarn knuckler is not nearly enough.
The Katarn knuckler is neither rare nor looted, but I know facts undermine your weak argument. It is a quest reward. Everyone who completes the quest gets a pair, and with the numbers of TKMs dropping, there should be plenty to go around.
jiro09
Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:50 pm
#19
Logray wrote:
chelseascum wrote:
Pfft, so what? If I get a rare, looted item I can just about outdamage a profession that I should be able to outdamage with just a 10k vibroknuckler. Woo. I'm sure the TK population is real psyched about that. TK damage needs fixing, and just adding more damage to the Katarn knuckler is not nearly enough.
The Katarn knuckler is neither rare nor looted, but I know facts undermine your weak argument. It is a quest reward. Everyone who completes the quest gets a pair, and with the numbers of TKMs dropping, there should be plenty to go around.
True...KK are not looted and they have the potential to not be rare (i hold that at this point in time, they are rare). but this fact does not undermine the argument that a supposed offensively "weak" profession has better damage multipliers than a "middle of the road" offensively rated profession. i think that was the point. TKM needs some damage multiplier lovin'.
rather than calling the argument weak...prove it. makes one take your statement more seriously.
Page 2 of 2