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Thread: I heard we were getting NERFED big time
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You will get 3k hits at Master TKA (with a VK), but, have you ever tried this wearing a full suit of armor and nodoc buff? You literaly kill yourself because of special costs.
i can say i have experienced some of all professions, i have master brawler (many do, but i am going full melee) master swordsman, 4/1.5/0/4 teras kasi, novice fencer (halfway to my first skill), and novice pikeman 3/4 the way to intermediate defense. i have experienced some from each melee profession.
i often hunt with my tka friend, and they can outdamage me in almost any combat, except for things weak against blast damage. and yeah sure i can and have done attacks that are 10 to 20k. heck three weeks ago i hit a picket plains walker lair for 22k damage, but that is the first time i have done more than 10k damage. and probabally the only time,unless i fluke out i will do that kind of damage to something else. but on average i hit things standing or knocked down for about 3 to 5k damage if that every two to three seconds using head hit3 or two hand hit 3. while my tka friend can hit averagely for 1000 to 2500, maby 3k damage per second using unarmed hit 3. and i miss about 2 out of five attacks at the very least. and at times i miss five or six attacks in a row. and they dont miss very often.
when i was a novice tka, i was killing things i only dreamed of killing when i was a novice swordsman. i was affraid to attack some things at novice swordsman because i would miss half my attacks and get wasted. heckwith the skills i have right now i have +185 unarmed accuracy, whereas at master swordsman and brawler i have +120. i figure it should be equal accuracy for all melee, with master brawler wether it be +150, or +200, or whatever. and maby give the supposed damage dealers the edge they need to be damage dealers or offensive tank. and leave tka alone so they can be what they are meant to be, the defensive tank.
read the message by Azmodean at the end of http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swordsman&message.id=12491&page=3, i like views this guy has on where melee should be. and i think if melee were simmilar to that, nobody would need nerfing, and alot of people would be happy, once they got used to it. but that is just my thoughts on what i read there.
bah the little bit there where it was all spaced out like that wasnt meant to be like that... grrr
the message by Azmodean near the end of the thread.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swordsman&message.id=12491&page=3
hopefully that worked and looks neater. heh
Your crazy if you thinks its uncommon for a Master Hvy Swordsman to hit for 15K to 18K with a blast hammer.. its pretty common knowledge and I bet if you asked one they would tell you. Ive seen posts on there forums talking about 18k hits in pve.
ArkMindSpear wrote:
a swordsman hit for 17K? I bet he can't do it again.
Ummmm.. They're doing a full combat revamp guys.. I don't think there's going to be a profession in the game that was the same before the revamp.
Besides the AFK dancers that is.
ArkMindSpear wrote:
TKAs can simply walk forward, hit, KD2, UH3,UH3,UH3,UH3,UH3 and win and not have to worry about weather or not they can fight .
You show me a TK that spams UH3 in pvp or pve and I'll guarantee they are A- New TKM's or B- Stupid TKM's, the HAM costs are insane on that move unless super buffed but then again what class doesnt own when fully buffed. You see all the plusses and think overpowered yet fail to realize 1 damage type thats it no more no less kinetic. There is alot in this game I dont get to do with my TK large scale grp hunts, I have to take a back seat b/c most large mobs are 80 to 100 Kinetic resist with Med to Hvy armor. No melee needs to be brought down but DEF the others need to be brough up. Again dont base fixes around the crappy pvp system in this game, b/c alot of players dont play that and what you think is to powerful in pvp is not to powerful in pve. I get 1 shot by commandoes do I run around crying nope.. I watch carbineers spam that charge shot KD do I cry nope.. The point is each class has its strengths and each class has its weaknesses we need to stop this petty infighting and learn that one truth. About the only melee I can say needs some Def Immediate love is Pikeman.
What i am saing is that yes swordsman HAVE hit for huge damage, they CAN do it, but they have as much control over it as the person they are attacking..
And to the guy who said that you can't SPAM unarmed hit three when you are wearing armour or you will kill yourself......ha know how armor reduces your stats....yeah, that is what that does, it is it's job. it makes your HAM costs more. Not just tkas. everyones. WHen i wear armour i can do 350 damage to myself with polearm hit 3. Can you? I bet you ould sure hate to use polearm hit 3, three times becouse thats all the health you can spare, and miss all three times. Do you think you would take that lightly? We need to hit to win, it is a fact, our damage if offset by our speed, tat is the way it should be, but instead our damage is offset by our speed, HAM, defenses, and accuracy.
And thanks to some ones +250 damage our damage isn't that special anyway.
But oh well.
And yes, we are all goin got get revamped, so why are we in the forums discussing proffesion problems? Or even playing the game? It won't matter in a month or two. But that is all we have to do for now. Is sit idle and wait for them, wait while if we try and walk around overt and we walk into a town, we feel good about ourselves, we can put up a good fight, but when that (Teras Kasi Master) comes floating around a building, we might as well just type /suicide, so maybe at least we can load the cloning center faster....
and you know why?
Becouse of KD2+Dizzy+UH3+UH3+UH3 that is all you have to do to kill us.
Or if you prefer KD2+Dizzy+MindHit1+MH1+MH1
what ever floats your boat
ArkMindSpear wrote:
TKAs can simply walk forward, hit, KD2, UH3,UH3,UH3,UH3,UH3 and win and not have to worry about weather or not they can fight, they don't have to worry about how much damage they are going to do, or if they can hit their target.
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First of all, it's "whether" but that doesnt matter....
For all of you babies whining about how TKA's get dizzy+kd, guess what, when I'm at one handed three,I could take a tusken warlord ifI wanted to. You have dizzy attack at one handed three and unarmed lunge + warcry and guess what, you just lay him out. Why dont you guys just stop whining. This stupid arguement hasno point. If you guys hate the pikeman profession or hate the one handed profession GUESS WHAT?? theres a little button called "surrender skill" Press it and then type "yes" Then, you can start wasting more time out of your life to go up the tka tree and I GUARENTEE you that you wont be whining to nerf tka's any more.
Think before you guys say stuff..
_Flash_ wrote:
ArkMindSpear wrote:
TKAs can simply walk forward, hit, KD2, UH3,UH3,UH3,UH3,UH3 and win and not have to worry about weather or not they can fight, they don't have to worry about how much damage they are going to do, or if they can hit their target.
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First of all, it's "whether" but that doesnt matter....
For all of you babies whining about how TKA's get dizzy+kd, guess what, when I'm at one handed three,I could take a tusken warlord ifI wanted to. You have dizzy attack at one handed three and unarmed lunge + warcry and guess what, you just lay him out. Why dont you guys just stop whining. This stupid arguement hasno point. If you guys hate the pikeman profession or hate the one handed profession GUESS WHAT?? theres a little button called "surrender skill" Press it and then type "yes" Then, you can start wasting more time out of your life to go up the tka tree and I GUARENTEE you that you wont be whining to nerf tka's any more.
Think before you guys say stuff..
ok i have to...You really shouldn't flame people who can't spell correctly, when you yourself can't spell correctly. Its GUARANTEE!
You will get nerfed because a TKAhas over 3 times as much melee defense as Swordsman and Pikeman and you also do 4 times as much damage in the same amount of time against 95% of the mobs in this game. You guys also get perfect accuracy and insane speed. This is not mentioning the abilty to buff yourselves and cure any stat ailment. Let's not forget the knockdown/dizzy attack.
TKA's alleged limitation is only one type of damage and no DOT attacks. However, you don't want to mention that unarmed 4 is also a prerequisite to smuggler and commando. You have enough skill points to pick up dirty fighting 4 and flamethrower specialization 4, and novice medic with master tk.
No, I think it is pure BS. Cause currently TKA sucks soo much that we still haven't achieved half what they were meant to be from the Star Wars Universe. Most likely all the morons will just have to learn to stay out of range from the short range TKA.
3000 points of damage at only short range is very little damage compared to what any bounty hunter orANY other type of ranged mastercan do from long distance in a short period of time. Thesame amount of time it would have taken the TKA to close the gap.