Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: TKA is not as strong as people think...
suver569 wrote:
TKA's walk all over jedi's, so dont complain.
Not true... Master Tk's walk over noob jedi who think they should pwn all cause they grind professions for the last 6 months. The way it should be! I highly doubt a jedi master will have any trouble with a single tkm.
raider7734 wrote:
KraytDragonMan wrote:
I just made TKM and while I am impressed with unarmedhit3 I couldnt believe the ham cost with my VK! It was over 100. When I take it off it goes down to like 54 but I can only hit for like 2k and thats when their on the ground. So I cant stand to here people say that TKA can hit strong. We cant hit as strong as a Heavy Swrodsman or anything.. we just got the speed.
Well you are in pretty good shape, I think.
I know your HAM costs are high, but so are everyone else's. You just have to buff up in order to kick ass, it's how the doctors and entertainers make a living.
Actually, though,you have alot more going for you than just speed. You also have great accuracy, consistant damage, and by far the highest DPS of any melee profession, against all armor levels, using nothing morethan a garden variety vibro knuckler with an excellentdamage slice.
Here's how the powerhammer works (btwthis is all backed up by experience;I was a TKM and have been a Swordsman for a long time):
- For the big hits, you use a 35% damage sliced hammer: 186-634 @ 5.3s. HAM cost 104-31-29
- It's slow - Hit 3 happensevery 3.3 seconds (yeah that slow)
- About 1 in 4 attacks will miss(andpvp is much worse). A quick glance at my combat log showed 14 misses out of 62 specials. This is normal.Swordsman has only +130 accuracy and the hammer is -30
- Hit 3 is x4 damageand there's thestandard x1.86 factor too, so it will land for anywhere from 1384-4717 damage. It's an AP2 hit, so it gets a 25% damage bonus against Light armor, so1730-5896
- Average DPS against Light armor calculates to be1155. Actually for higherDPS you can use a speed sliced hammer, and you will see 1291 DPS doing smaller hits but faster. But you still miss about 1 time in 4, so the damage throughput ends up at 968 DPS
And here's how the vibro knuckler compares:
- You'll want a35% damage sliced knuckler: 51-198 @ 2.2s. HAM cost 32-47-31
- Hit 3 happens every second
- Misses don't happen muchthanks to+205 accuracy and+11 on the knuckler
- With Unarmed Damage +250, Hit 3 doing x4, and the standard x1.86 factor, Spitting Rawl will landfor 2239-3333vs. Light armor. Nice consistant damage
- Average DPS against Light armor calculates to be 2786. Even if you miss 1 time in 10,the damage throughput is still 2507 DPS
Now you have to admit that's some pretty good stuff.You won't get the big hitsthe powerhammer can deliver,but on the bright side you can:
- Go barefisted and do twice the DPS a Swordsman can against stuff with no armor
- Go barefisted and do 93%the DPS a Swordsman can against Light armor,or put on the knuckler and do 2.5x (!!!)the Swordsman's DPS
- Do 61% higher DPS than a Swordsman against Medium and Heavy armor
So as you can see, TKA is quite strong, having great speed, accuracy, far superior DPS, and versatility.
If you want to landthe big hits, go ahead and master Swordsman, but be warned: you will be slow, your accuracy and DPS will be crap,and the HAM costs will be even higher. You can still have fun with it though...My 2c
Well the thing is... I am a docter too but I cant buff myself. And im saying that my ham costs are like I think 143 EVEN when I have a muon gold to lower ham costs for mind....
sallenx8 wrote:
just using unarmed hit 2, with all my stats buffed ~300 and popping muon and some vasarian brandy and powerboosting i loose 105 off my ham per hit, but ive had no problem with it, maybe its cos im a doc and every 10-15 hits ill heal myself for like 1500 damage, but maybe thats the way to go /shrug
lets say unbuffed but powerboostedandspamming specials how many do you think i can do in without incapacitating myself. Ok now add buffed how many times can i spam specials. Now add someone hitting me. Trust me, the reason we do what we do is because without that speed we would be dead in pve who cares about pvp. How many mobsd can a swordsman kill at once? How many can a tk. When i was a swordsman i could take 4 8-12k ham mobs at once. TK with 2 it would be luck of the draw 3 and for sure i was dead, thisi s with the same buffs. Go try it.
PvP is all skill, i have beaten fencers, they have beaten me. I have beatwen swordsman, they have beaten me.Never fought a pike so can't say anything. Learn how to fight.!!!!!!!!
With Unarmed Damage +250, Hit 3 doing x4, and the standard x1.86 factor, Spitting Rawl will landfor 2239-3333vs. Light armor. Nice consistant damage
Katan1221 wrote:
143 action... for Unarmed 3. With Polearmhit3 I was taking off 177 health AND around 100 action per use. That was using a Master WS made LVA. But I won't whine about TK cuz its not my nature. Just felt that I should point out that you're VK ham cost is not as bad as it COULD be.