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Thread: No one's using Armor Break?

rixo1
Tue May 10, 2005 8:28 pm
#14

i acctually picked up the advandced swordsman line just for the better armor break i do really good w/ TKM Mpike Mbrawler sword 0434



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EvocPylika
Tue May 17, 2005 5:25 am
#15

armour break doesnt do damamge, it is only meant to reduce the defense of the opponents armour, allows me to do a considerable amount more damage than when i am not using it



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BadChef
Tue May 17, 2005 5:32 am
#16

Use it when group hunting, you'l go through those mobs fast. Even though I'm a low level I usualy end up tanking while all the lvl 80's are watching, so I sweep them down then armor break and we go through them pretty quick.




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akimo
Tue May 17, 2005 5:36 am
#17

but does armor break still work even if the mob has no armor? is that just a name or does it really only apply to mobs with armor?



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SpunkyKuma
Tue May 17, 2005 5:44 am
#18

I do level 81-84 nightsisters solo, armor break doesn't stick everytime but the chances of sticking seems better when the opponment is KD'd, and dizzy seems to make them easier to hit as well as their damage output is lowered a little.



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Yosho_Tarien
Wed May 25, 2005 11:33 am
#19

You just have to judge for yourself whether it's worth 'wasting' a round. It does no damage, but, when it sticks it increases damage from your other hits.I can only get it to stick roughly half the time. Sometimes I use it and sometimes I don't. If it's something that will drop quickly I don't use it. If it's a slow fight I will. I always use it in groups because then other people can take advantage of it too. I also use KD because then it forces them to lose a round and lowers their defense.

Edit: as far as I know it works on everything once it sticks.

Message Edited by Yosho_Tarien on 05-25-2005 11:37 AM



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Cartouche
Wed May 25, 2005 8:00 pm
#20




use it every npc in dwb religeously





I second that. It makes a huge difference against the DWB NPC's, and against the SBD's (if you have ranged damaged dealers behind you, that is). But it doesn't seem to stick on the regular battle droids.




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Willoda
Wed May 25, 2005 11:31 pm
#21

I use armour break religiously.

One thing I have noticed is that if i walk up to a beast, which i'm not in agro with (not NPC), and slap an armour break on it 9 times out of 10 the beast wont aggro. This gives me the advantage of an extra move before the battle starts. I always follow the armour break with a KD at the start of the fight becuase the damage I cause when it's down and while the armour break state is on is much greater.




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ImpSwordsman
Thu May 26, 2005 12:08 am
#22

in pvp it is a must to use


get into hitting people for 1k+





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sciguyCO
Thu May 26, 2005 12:32 am
#23






akimo wrote:
but does armor break still work even if the mob has no armor? is that just a name or does it really only apply to mobs with armor?




Depends on what you mean by "armor". If you mean PCs and NPCs wearing bone/composite/BH armor/whatever, thenarmor breakis not limited to them.


For just about every mob I've been fighting (currently CL 42, focusing mainly on PvE against animals) the combat spam shows something like:


"you hit {mob} with {attack} for X damage (kinetic), armor absorbed Y out ofZ possible", where X = Z - Y


Using armor break reduces Y, so you end up doing more damage to the mob's health. I'd assume that if a creature had no armor, X would equal Z, so in that situation armor break would be a waste of action points. Different mobs appear to have different damage reduction from armor (and generally higher CL = more reduction), so the relative benefit of armor break is something you have to gauge for yourself.


I usually throw one in on everything, but I only make a dedicated attempt to make it stick if the damage reduction without the break is above 100.






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akimo
Thu May 26, 2005 6:45 am
#24

akimo wrote:
but does armor break still work even if the mob has no armor? is that just a name or does it really only apply to mobs with armor?

"Depends on what you mean by "armor". If you mean PCs and NPCs wearing bone/composite/BH armor/whatever, then armor break is not limited to them."

what i meant was the armor rating (that i check out on swg creatures for example). if it says that a creature has no armor, then i guess armor break is a waste, right?



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ga1352
Thu May 26, 2005 8:11 pm
#25



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akimo wrote:
use it every npc in dwb religeously


Same



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LogicAudio
Thu May 26, 2005 10:31 pm
#26

I Never Leave Home without it.



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