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Thread: Why is everyone calling for the TKA Nerf!!!

Maccus
Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:34 pm
#1

Im not even a TKA im a CH I hate nerfs ive been p[laying since July and still havet reached master. All becouse some moron said nerf the CH. You guys are need badly. I need you to tank for my nerfed pets. LOL


Im actually getting a MAster TKa to tank tonight so i can use a low level pet to get CH XP.


I do think that they need to make the other melee professions as powerful as TKA though.


Oh Well Just my opinion.




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Laeren
Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:06 am
#2

It's becuase some people see someone doing something they cannot do with lesser skills and call a nerf. I was in the same boat a LONG time ago, complaining about how bad Pistoleer was becuase I couldn't Head Shot 3 something like a master rifleman friend of mine was doing to Kimos. And I only had Double Tap at the time


People just like to try to bring things down to their level, rather than appreciating the differences in power that each profession grants. They would rather all professions be at the same level as their own fighting ability, regardless of what that is. In their eyes, a TKM and a Master Weaponsmith should be killing the same things (they're both MASTER, right?). If not, it's obvious that TKM is overpowered...


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antares_Kauri
Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:30 am
#3

The other melee classes have been complaining about TKA (or at least complaining about inequalities) for a very long time. TKA has always been out of whack with the rest of the melee'ers, it's only now that some are starting to catch up.

antares
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TechBoss
Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:41 am
#4

The main problem is a lot of people see someone soloing and don't relieze what is actually going on, I know I didn't when I first started the game. Anyway, a lot of non-master players will walk around and see a person soloing something, be it commandos or TKA or whatever. Most people only think about the main profession, if a person is a TKA, they only see the lone column of brawl and the TKA trees. Most soloers of thehigh level areasare as follows:


Master of some combat profession, master or dabbler in other combat professions.


Fully buffed


Fully armored in slicedadvanced composite withmultiple layers


Have the best weapon they can find


On drugs


Full of food and drink


Now, if you can't solo doing all that, then I refuse to continue playing the game. Some people can solo with some of these missing by taking their time or knowing exactly what they are doing, but chances are they will have at least some of the things on the list. The people who cry for nerfs are barely above novice or part of a profession that is either broken or not an elite combat profession. Some professions are better for PvE, while others excel in PvP. It should be that way or we should all just play the same character and have no differences.




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atimes
Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:35 am
#5

The other melee classes have been complaining about TKA (or at least complaining about inequalities) for a very long time. TKA has always been out of whack with the rest of the melee'ers, it's only now that some are starting to catch up.


That doesn't answer the question posed antares. Shouldn't the obvious solution be to ask for other professions to be boosted.


TKA is not overpowered. It merely works. I've said it once and I'll say it again. TKA is the ONLY combat profession in the ENTIRE GAME that is virtually bug free. No broken specials. . . NONE do you realize how rare that is. Every special in the TKA tree does what it's description says and the extent of our buggy specials is unarmed combo 2 shows a damage of 1 in the combat spam.


The answer is not to call for a TKA "nerf" (which won't get a dev response anyway) but to work with your professions correspondant to get your profession enhanced.


To answer the original question Why is everyone calling for the TKA Nerf. The answer is simple.


They are crybabies.

antares_Kauri
Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:47 am
#6



atimes wrote:

Shouldn't the obvious solution be to ask for other professions to be boosted.

TKA is not overpowered. It merely works. I've said it once and I'll say it again. TKA is the ONLY combat profession in the ENTIRE GAME that is virtually bug free. No broken specials. . .

The answer is not to call for a TKA "nerf" (which won't get a dev response anyway) but to work with your professions correspondant to get your profession enhanced.






I completely agree. I was just stating that TKA has been the best melee for a long time, and only now are the rest starting to catch up.

Of course the best solution is to work with your correspondent to get your class fixed...how many professions have been trying to do that since the beginning of the game? People don't see that as being a possibility, really, or even something that will happen within 2 months, and so what's the fast, easy way? Call for something else to be taken down. It's like the dark side, faster, easier, gives you more sense of power and immediate gratification.

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VikaLine
Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:51 am
#7

I think the order of working melee goes


1- Fencer - TK (if our cob worked we would be even better but until then I say were still working)


2- Hvy Swords - I think they are about to where they need to be, these guys are not a pvp machine they are a pve maching and anyone that thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.


3- Pikeman - I dont know jack about this profession cept what I leveled to get Master Brawler but from what I hear there ok at higher lvls but still suffer accuracy problems.




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atimes
Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:16 am
#8

antares since people don't think working with the correspondant isn't going to work then how in the world can people expect nerf calling to do any better? Besides with the combat revamp underway these nerf callers zero chance of success in getting their whines answered.


antares_Kauri
Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:43 am
#9

I know. I didn't say it was good, it's just what's happening. /shrug. Waiting and talking isn't the quick fix people want.



antares
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piezo
Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:52 am
#10

What bothers a lot of other melees is the fact that TKA is already undisputably the top dog in melee, yet they continue to get better. For example, last patch everyone got dmg mitigation.....but tka almost entirely ignore it!

Many TKA don't seem content to be the best either, and ask for MORE. How often do you see threads here asking for stun vks, dual vks, or even force powers. Then there are the yahoos with the bizarre idea that TKA should be jedi hunters, and therefore be even tougher than they already are. At a glance this profession comes off as very arrogant. For the most part the other melee's are asking their correspondants to get their specials/accuracy/HAM fixed, not posting in multipage threads suggesting super overpowered bonuses.

Now do you see why the other melees are so unhappy?



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tofulhasa
Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:11 pm
#11

I agree Piezo, but please realize not all TKA's are asking for more.It isthe recent migration of leet dewds who could care less about balance and only about pwning everyone and everything that are driving some of the calls for dual vk, stun vk, relooking the HAM issue, making getting novice TKA easier, etc.

Aorek
Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:46 pm
#12

Preach it brother!!


The only thing i would like for Christmas for the TK's is different attack types for VK's ( stun,acid and such not just kenetic! )




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Dodd
Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:23 pm
#13

Chopping off the heads of others may make one taller...but then eventually one will have to face the truth...they will invariably be surrounded by decapitated people.

Reflect deeply upon this truth...and you will soon realize the idiocy of nerfing TK.

SWG is a flawed game. Making it more flawed is not the answer. Let's all work together and fix it, ok?



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