Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: Commando Vs Rifleman?

OLE10589
Tue May 25, 2004 1:49 pm
#1


Hello,

I know there is a lot of speculation of weather which is better commando or rifleman. I dont know what to choose for a well-rounded template in PvE and PvP. When I originally planned out my character I had thought of master scout (accomplished) master TK, (almost there, 4434) and master rifleman (1120). When counting I found out that I do not have enough skill points. So I cut a little off of master scout on the trapping skill. I wanted to keep scout because if I didn't the terrain negiotaion would be horrible and I would keep getting caught up in worthless little aggros. But then I struck the thought of going into commando instead of rifleman! I was excited at first. After reading about 4 or 5 posts about commando and people beingdisappointedmy hopes were greatly diminished. I dont know if I should continue to master rifleman or switch into commando. So, my question is if you were in my situation, what would you do? What are your thoughts on how to get a well-rounded template with my current skills?
garvin
Tue May 25, 2004 2:06 pm
#2

Well...this is coming from a Master Commando / TKM...


If you want a good all around PvP/PvE template go TKM / Rifleman


If you want a good all around PvE template go Commando / TKM


Rifleman will give you the ranged attacks that TKA lacks so you can deal with those who will kit you...and the defenses granted via Rifleman don't hurt to much either...


Commando would give you high damage attacks, but those attacks are restricted to Melee range...NPC's rarely kite you, but other Players will...this is why Commando is better for a PvE template then a PvP one...


As a TKM I love using a KD/Dizzy then /FlameSingle2 combo...or I like to flame them as they run towards me followed my an nice unarmed attack...but what I lack is a good ranged weapon...all of our Heavy Ranged weapons (the Rocket Launcher, the Heavy Particle Cannon, etc) are consumable and have very slow speed/bad accuracy...they are good for starting a fight, but not good to use during one...


Anyway, hope that helps....




Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

atone48732
Tue May 25, 2004 3:03 pm
#3

Does this look like the commando or rifleman boards to you?


I think not


Please take this crap somewhere else



Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
garvin
Tue May 25, 2004 3:51 pm
#4






atone48732 wrote:

Does this look like the commando or rifleman boards to you?


I think not


Please take this crap somewhere else





1) Relax...take a breath...it will all be ok...serenity now...


2) He was asking which goes better with TKA...Commando or Rifleman...a TKA related question that seems to fit in a TKA related forum...no need to flame anyone...





Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

SilLum
Tue May 25, 2004 3:54 pm
#5

Yeah, Atone, I noticed your recent posts have been very bitter. I understand you dont like the FOTM people hopping onto TK bandwagon, but we ALL feel that way, yet none of us react like that. Just chill.



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[It is not a shame to be defeated by other people. The important thing to ask when you have been defeated is `WHY have I been defeated?`. If a person can reflect in this way, then there is hope for this person.]
atone48732
Tue May 25, 2004 4:00 pm
#6

Yes I hate the FOTM crowd


Every TRUE tka profession should


I mean I actually enjoy bein a TKA I am not one cause of its so called power


I am sick of people like this poster






Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
SilLum
Tue May 25, 2004 4:06 pm
#7

Who said we all dont dislike this FOTM crap? hey, I agree completely..its stupid to see people who arent even interested in the profession go around using it. But, thing is, you cant go around being bitter and posting things like this. Eventually the FOTM will disapear - on bloodfin, it already has..moved to fencer. Things like this pass quickly, just be patient.



[Mubai Otori.Bloodfin] ADS
[It is not a shame to be defeated by other people. The important thing to ask when you have been defeated is `WHY have I been defeated?`. If a person can reflect in this way, then there is hope for this person.]
garvin
Tue May 25, 2004 4:15 pm
#8






atone48732 wrote:

Yes I hate the FOTM crowd


Every TRUE tka profession should


I mean I actually enjoy bein a TKA I am not one cause of its so called power


I am sick of people like this poster







I am in no way trying to create a flame war or flaming anyone...I'm curious by your post...Are you telling me that the only skills you have is Unarmed4 of Brawler and TKA...that you don't dabble anywhere else?


If you dabble elsewhere, let me ask you this, what made you decide where you spent your remaining skill points? Did you decide to invest it in various professions you thought would help your character?


The impression I gathered from the original poster is that they wanted to be a TKM and they are now trying to decide where they should best spend their other skill points to complete their template...where is the harm in that...


I first became a Master Commando...I then became a Master TKA...I did this when both professions weren't FOTM...The reason I added TKA is 1) I love this profession and 2) the defenses compliment the lack of for Commando...


The original poster is becoming a TKA and wants to know what other professions will "compliment" his template for PvP and PvE...a very reasonable question...


Look at his original post:


When I originally planned out my character I had thought of master scout (accomplished) master TK, (almost there, 4434) and master rifleman (1120).


Where does that say FOTM? He only has 22 posts under his belt...he ends with:


What are your thoughts on how to get a well-rounded template with my current skills?


Should he just leave those remaining skill points un-used or is it wise to spend them on other professions that will improve his character?


In my opinion, you owe this person an apology for your accusation and unwarrented attack...What a way to welcome someone into your fold...after all, we are all dabblers, but this one isn't dabbling TKA...he's dabbling elsewhere...


Message Edited by garvin on 05-25-2004 04:17 PM



Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

SilLum
Tue May 25, 2004 4:19 pm
#9






garvin wrote:






atone48732 wrote:

Yes I hate the FOTM crowd


Every TRUE tka profession should


I mean I actually enjoy bein a TKA I am not one cause of its so called power


I am sick of people like this poster







I am in no way trying to create a flame war or flaming anyone...I'm curious by your post...Are you telling me that the only skills you have is Unarmed4 of Brawler and TKA...that you don't dabble anywhere else?


If you dabble elsewhere, let me ask you this, what made you decide where you spent your remaining skill points? Did you decide to invest it in various professions you thought would help your character?


The impression I gathered from the original poster is that they wanted to be a TKM and they are now trying to decide where they should best spend their other skill points to complete their template...where is the harm in that...


I first became a Master Commando...I then became a Master TKA...I did this when both professions weren't FOTM...The reason I added TKA is 1) I love this profession and 2) the defenses compliment the lack of for Commando...


The original poster is becoming a TKA and wants to know what other professions will "compliment" his template for PvP and PvE...a very reasonable question...


Look at his original post:


When I originally planned out my character I had thought of master scout (accomplished) master TK, (almost there, 4434) and master rifleman (1120).


Where does that say FOTM? He only has 22 posts under his belt...he ends with:


What are your thoughts on how to get a well-rounded template with my current skills?


Should he just leave those remaining skill points un-used or is it wise to spend them on other professions that will improve his character?


In my opinion, you owe this person an apology for your accusation and unwarrented attack...What a way to welcome someone into your fold...after all, we are all dabblers, but this one isn't dabbling TKA...he's dabbling elsewhere...



Message Edited by garvin on 05-25-2004 04:17 PM



/agree




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perciple
Wed May 26, 2004 9:55 am
#10

Atone you just have earn my weekly a s shat award. Congrats!!!!



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DarkLordIce
Wed May 26, 2004 12:29 pm
#11


Maybe he's a new player and doesnt even know what FotM is? No point in bashing him.

Or maybe he's like me. When I started the game, as Cyruss I wanted to be TK/Rifleman. AGES ago. I woulda been the first defence stacker.. and not even known i was doing it. Why did I want to be tk/rifle? simple:

1) I love martial arts RL = want to try TK

2) Snipers facinate me, even in paintball that is what I am = I want to try rifleman


Now, due to several circumstances my character would up being a crafter. I wound up with a few meager pistol skills. So, a few months back I wanted a break and wanted to get into the side of the game I never really tried - combat. What did I do with good old Antrax? TKM and im 2 boxes from master rifleman. With my mind made up on my two major focuses, I noticed I had a few skillpoints left over.I can tell you right now I spent a long time looking though information to see what would compliment those two professons. Eventually i decided on fencer 0440 to try and get my state defences up. And novice medic to heal. Im thinking about droping part of the fencer to pick up scout 4000 for the terrain neg, but I dont think I see a point, since I can shoot at range with the rifle.


to me, half of the fun is working out a good build that suits you. I RP Antrax as a Teras Kasi, and I love it. I use the rifle in PvP some, that is it. Almost any other time, i use TK. This template suits me well, and I really enjoy playing it. So much so that if I were not for my in game wife and the city that Cyruss runs, I would make Antrax my main and hardly use Cyruss. So if I'm a wannabe l337 FotM'er, so be it, it makes me enjoy the game, and I love every min of it! =D



- Colonel Cyruss Blackwell -
Imperial Mayor Appointee, Mos Veris - Tatooine.
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- Antrax Blackwell -
The Corrupted Saint.
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- Silas' -
Groundskeeper, The Blackwell Estate - Taooine.
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chichi
Thu May 27, 2004 12:24 am
#12

I love being a TKA/Rifleman. The range is awsome, and if anything does get to close you always got melee.



Ant.


Barb-Wire
Thu May 27, 2004 7:19 am
#13






garvin wrote:

Well...this is coming from a Master Commando / TKM...


If you want a good all around PvP/PvE template go TKM / Rifleman


If you want a good all around PvE template go Commando / TKM


Rifleman will give you the ranged attacks that TKA lacks so you can deal with those who will kit you...and the defenses granted via Rifleman don't hurt to much either...


Commando would give you high damage attacks, but those attacks are restricted to Melee range...NPC's rarely kite you, but other Players will...this is why Commando is better for a PvE template then a PvP one...


As a TKM I love using a KD/Dizzy then /FlameSingle2 combo...or I like to flame them as they run towards me followed my an nice unarmed attack...but what I lack is a good ranged weapon...all of our Heavy Ranged weapons (the Rocket Launcher, the Heavy Particle Cannon, etc) are consumable and have very slow speed/bad accuracy...they are good for starting a fight, but not good to use during one...


Anyway, hope that helps....








one thing about rifle that is overlooked is the disadvantage of using a rifle in melee combat you will be hit EVERY time. the only benefit of rifles in PVE without a pet or a tank is in battling ranged NPC attackers. in PVE fighting things like a krayt your going to die unless you have someone else or something else tanking for you. most critters do melee. course you can always use conceal shot but that is very dull.






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