Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: Im Sick And Tired Of The BS

farnargle
Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:13 am
#1

are you still on this kick?
dewolow
Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:25 am
#2

What are you saying that we are denying? Also the disadvantage to a TKA is that we only haev one damage option: kinetic, while everyone else has 2 or 3 options, so someone wearing 65% resist armor to kinetic (which is rather low compared to some), that works to only 63.75 of our damage going through, and with the 25% PvP damage, that would only be: 9.08% of your damage going through (you may want to double check me, doing it without a calculator), so with 2000 damage normalhit, is only about 180 damage, nothing a good stim can't heal.



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NharYstta
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:41 am
#3

I dont know about the power on the others, but the damage on that VK is beyond what most masters on my server (starsider) seem to make. At least with their normal versions. The higher damage ones have more HAM costs though...


In either case, Im not sure what you are trying to accomplish. If you wanted equality amongst melee professions, wouldnt posting some kind of breakdown like this on the Core Systems forum go towards the correct audience? Or maybe in one of the In Developement threads. Posting this on the TKA forum just makes you look like a whiner. And considering that you post basically the same thing (TKA hits too hard) every day of the week, its easy to see how one could get that impression. What exactly do you want from the TKA community? For everyone to rise up and say "Holy ****, hes right! We need a good nerfing. OMG how could we have been so blind?" You wont find that here. You wont find that on any profession forum for any MMORPG ever, nor will you in the future. People dont like being nerfed.


Why dont you take all of this energy that you have towards collecting data and take it to the other melee forums, and provide them with suggestions as to how they could empower themselves? That would be much more constructive, and would garner you the support of three professions (perhaps even four if you count TKAs) instead of the enmity of one.


Frankly, no one pays any creedence to nerf criers. They will come up with whatever information necessary to protect what they have. But people do listen to innovators and people who have factual data to back those ideas up. Post for swordsmen to get stronger weapons, for pikemen to get better defenses (and more skill mods. their tree is so empty), and for fencers to not get nerfed in this anti-defense climate. Im only offering this suggestion as you seem hellbent on coming here each morning with some new "incontrovertible facts" about why TKA is too good. Refocus negative energies into a positive force.





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farnargle
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:02 am
#4

kinetic resist armor+<insert food> = tka not doing much damage
tometaophion
Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:22 pm
#5


Simple Facts, You Will STILL Deny Them, I Have Over 30 but this is the mostobvious, and to my perception, most painful, indicative of a specific predilection of the devs for supportin certain classes, and completely ignoring the wishes of others.



All Weapons Sliced With Speed Powerup 16%


Vibroknuckler- 46-180 1.9 +13 +13 +13 32 47 32

Powerhammer- 134-465 3.1 -31 -31 -311033119

2 h curved sword- 63-138 1.5 +8 +8 +8 25 38 30

Gaderffi Baton 129-220 2.1 -3 -3 -3 53 31 15

Long Vibro Axe 110- 3752.8 -52 -52 -52(lol)76 6126


After Mitigation


VK- 46-100- 296-350 With Unarmed Dmg Mod(PS A TKA Has politely informed me that this is acutally much higher do to their base dmg modifier, wonderful!)

Powerhammer- 134-267

2 Handed Curved- 63-138

Gaderffi Baton- 129-166

Long VibroAxe- 110-216


Here Is A Helpful Formula Adjusted Weapon Speed= Weapon Speed X Special Move Time Mod X ((100-Skill Mod/100))


Unarmed Hit 3- Time Mod 3, Dmg Mod 4 = 1400 DPS

Two Hand Hit 3- Time Mod 2.5, Dmg Mod 4= 580 With Powerhammer, 627 With 2 Handed Curved Sword, Both Adjusted For AP

One Hand Hit 3-Time Mod 2.25, DmgMod 4= 332DPS Adjusted For AP

Polearm Hit 3- Time Mod 2.5, Dmg Mod 3= 462 DPS Adjusted For AP


Unarmed Leghit/Headhit- Time Mod 2, Dmg Mod 2= 700DPS

Polearmleg hit 3- 405DPS

Two hand head hit 3- 635DPS With Powerhammer, 690DPS For 2 Handed Curved Sword Adjusted For AP




Message Edited by tometaophion on 02-19-2004 12:29 AM

Defconn
Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:54 pm
#6

Hmmm...I am not quite familiar with the math...but I do know that fighting as a TKM, I was totally owned by a Master Swordsman with a very nice power-hammer and a +9 2H Speed tape. Maybe I just don't know how to fight...

Or perhaps it's my VK, against his high kinetic composite...was around 80% protection, if I am not mistaken. Meanwhile, my blast protection was only around 65%.

Add the fact that he mind-bled me, then proceeded to blast through my helmet repeatedly while my KD failed to stick twice...

I did, however, manage to Warcry him, whilst I tried to stop my bleed with my meagre medic skills...meagre cos I'd already invested so much in combat...

And just when I'd stopped the bleed,there he was hitting me about the head again...

BUT, by your calculations, I should be GOD! Jedi should wither in the path of my gaze! My breath alone should be enough to chill the blood of my enemies!

And to top it all off...this happened at Dantooine's Mining Outpost...in public,was I, a God, humiliated! Oh! The shame!...

I cry out to the CSR's "Fix Me!",for the only explanation I can come to is that my character is bugged! A fight with a good Master Swordsman should not be a 50/50 affair! Fix me, so that I may achieve my true station in life...

Author's note : Yes, yes, I know...I am an idiot. But the subject of the thread was BS...

Message Edited by Defconn on 02-19-2004 12:57 AM



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Defconn
Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:56 pm
#7

Kinetic resist armour + (insert food name) + Master Doctor + Max Damaged Sliced Power-Hammer + 2H Speed tape + Intelligence = TKM enjoying nice 1.5 minute rest on dusty ground...



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tometaophion
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:06 pm
#8

Just dueled ANOTHER TKM, this one used something death weave, it didnt do much dmg, but WOUNDED the hell out of me, like close to 200 wounds, what the fock? Are they combat medics now?

Oh also, nearly master swordsman with a +10 two handed sword, and didnt hit him once, in I counted 14 attempts.

Message Edited by tometaophion on 02-19-2004 09:08 PM

XanaXian
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:15 pm
#9






tometaophion wrote:

Just dueled ANOTHER TKM, this one used something death weave, it didnt do much dmg, but WOUNDED the hell out of me, like close to 200 wounds, what the fock? Are they combat medics now?

Oh also, nearly master swordsman with a +10 two handed sword, and didnt hit him once, in I counted 14 attempts.

Message Edited by tometaophion on 02-19-2004 09:08 PM





im a master swordie and I rape TKM's all day long. /hands you a tissue






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tometaophion
Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:21 am
#10

im sure you do, but one of equal or greater skill, you will not.
Defconn
Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:48 am
#11


tometaophion wrote:
im sure you do, but one of equal or greater skill, you will not.





AHA! Finally someone says something logical. It all boils down to skill...and some intelligence!

And thank you for the compliment. Since you guys are claiming that you get raped by EVERY TKM on the servers, then your words can be construed to mean that EVERY TKM on the servers are of equal or greater skill than EVERY other melee fighter on the servers...

If this is not true, and you DON'T get raped by every TKM on the servers, then please speak up in an EQUALLY loud voice.

Xanasian brings up a simple point. There exists WAYS and MEANS to over-power a TKM. Nerf Cry is the lazy man's way out. Complaining is the easiest of things to do...IMPROVING YOUR SKILLS and EARNING CREDITS to get that uber weapon is pretty hard, but unfortunately not the style of the lazy, spoilt brat whinny kids. They want victory handed to them on a plate...and if possible, to ladle it off and shove it into their mouths for them as well...

Come here, for once, with some decent constructive comments on how the classes should be balanced. And don't get offended if people don't agree...that the right of the individual.

I want to see balance as much as any true TKM here. It gets boring after a while to keep handing people's asses back to them. Ask for logical improvements IN YOUR OWN professions and you would be surprised at the support you would get from the people here.

But the way you guys are doing it is like trying to supress the smarter and more hard-working in school so that your grades don't look so bad. THAT'S THE TRUE BS!

Message Edited by Defconn on 02-20-2004 12:00 AM

Message Edited by Defconn on 02-20-2004 12:03 AM



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Orion8th
Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:40 am
#12






XanaXian wrote:





Srednii wrote:

lol Tometaophion has been nerf whining in the CM forum too, I thought I recognized that name.


Is that all you do tome? whine for nerfs in other proffs forums cause you got beat in pvp? Maby you just suck.









Yeah he just plain sucks. Hes obviously too stupid to realize if he had /intimidated that TKM he never would have missed 14 straight times.










/agree



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oliphontmon
Fri Feb 20, 2004 4:33 am
#13

why dont you take some of the energy and brain power that youre wasting on trying to get everyones class that beats you up nerfed, and do something constructive with it, like GET A JOB. youll notice that you whine alot less and you wont mind paying the $15 a month so much, seriously, ever thought of a career compiling statisics? youd do pretty well i think, and it will keep you busy and out of everyones forums. also the death weave thing you saw was unarmed combo 2 which is actually a very weak attack, the wounds you got came from the knuckler that the tk was wearing more than likely. but you really have to find something to do with your time and stop trolling everyones forums, its getting beyond the point of annoyance and entering the realm of sadness.
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