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Thread: Why must people complain about overpowering?

Wamphyrri
Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:25 am
#1






IUFAN4LIFEUL wrote:
10 seconds by a Combat medic..... lets think how long it takes a TK to pull off combo 2.... 0.5 seconds. If they pull that move off your dead. Again another TK that doesnt know what is like to be on the other end of things.







.5 secs..... That is awesome considering it is capped at 1 sec...


tsk tsk




Thanks to Vasarian Brandy I am now the town drunk and ONLY go to the AA meetings to brag about the killing spree done during my drunken rage.
ZevMandara
Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:20 am
#2

Okay, so people say Teras Kasi is overpowered. If it's not TKA, it's Rifleman. If it's not Rifleman, it's Combat Medic. If it's not CM... it's an infinite cycle. I'm sure all Teras Kasi are agreeing with me on this one... TKA IS NOT THE SINGLE MOST POWERFUL PROFESSION IN THE GAME - THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TOO POWERFUL. So what if you get spanked by a TKA? Try getting diseased by a CM that kills you in ten seconds or get mind incapped in 2 seconds flat by a rifleman and stop complaining. There's balance for a reason in this game.


/sage nod.
Laeren
Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:57 am
#3

Cuz they like to blame the game rather than the fact that maybe they need to learn more about how to handle their professions. Or maybe they just don't like to think that they didn't "optimize" their character, and don't like it being shown to them by getting spanked.


Or they wanna be a Master Artisan/Master Marksman and think that that's good enough to PvP.


People have so many silly illusions about what they feel is 'balanced' in this game. And when shown differently, *obviously* it must be a problem with the game system or a profession, rather than looking inwards for their problems.




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Damirus37
Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:16 am
#4

People come here to whine because they dont know how to play thier own class. Instead of just saying, "I really suck at this game", they come to this forum, and **edit**, whine, moan, and complain. Like its been said a thousand times, whine in your own forum telling devs to fix you, or teach you how to play. Go f*** yourself, and have a nice day
Soha
Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:30 am
#5

I'm working up TKA right now (15th profession in an attempt to unlock...). Right now I am 0133 TKA, and I am wowed by how powerful I am now. I used to be a master creature handler/gunfighter, and even with both of them atmaster I wasn't ever near the power I am now. And I'm only halfway through this.


I don't think many people mind if a given class is overpowered in pve. But when it comes to pvp that's a different story. Whenever you see a TKA fight someone, that person generally hits the dirt within 2 seconds, and before they can get up they are incapped.


Am I saying nerf TKA? Not right now. When I do master it I plan on playing around with it for a while before moving on to commando, my planned 16th profession. When that time comes I'll give an honest and unbiased answer. I do know that I am enjoying this, and a little bit of me hopes TKA unlocks for me so I can keep it. But we'll see.


And finally I don't buy the common response here that players that want TKA nerfed either suck or aren't using good tactics. That's the same crap bounty hunters used to spew out when eye shot was dominating pvp.


An opponent should be expected to use tactics and their brains as much as the player they are facing. Saying one should have better tactics is basically admitting you are overpowered and telling them they have to overcome that by being smarter than their tka opponent, and if they aren't and complain about it they're a baby or whiner.

Damirus37
Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:33 am
#6

when it comes to pvp, 4 words for ya
triple layer composite armor
Since we only do kinetic damage, this makes our attacks nearly nothing.
Siyja_Derahldr
Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:51 am
#7






Soha wrote:

I'm working up TKA right now (15th profession in an attempt to unlock...). Right now I am 0133 TKA, and I am wowed by how powerful I am now. I used to be a master creature handler/gunfighter, and even with both of them atmaster I wasn't ever near the power I am now. And I'm only halfway through this.




I dont think it's exact.


Let me check. When you was a CH/gunfighter, you were obviously not your own tank, so you probably dont get buffed when PvE. Now, you're a 0133 TKA, and since you're your own tank, you probably get buffed when PvE. Add this fact to the nice feeling of power you get from being attacked and dont being incapped. Add this fact to the TKA nice speed, and you have your powerful feeling.


Am i right ?



Soha
Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:36 am
#8

"Let me check. When you was a CH/gunfighter, you were obviously not your own tank, so you probably dont get buffed when PvE. Now, you're a 0133 TKA, and since you're your own tank, you probably get buffed when PvE. Add this fact to the nice feeling of power you get from being attacked and dont being incapped. Add this fact to the TKA nice speed, and you have your powerful feeling."


There's definately a lot of variables here. Buffing wasn't as common in the game when i was master CH/ Pistoleer. Also I'm not wearing armor now, where I used too most of the time back then.


There's a lot of variables here. But the fact remains, I'm less than halfway through TKA and am slaughtering opposing npc/monsters at a rate I never came close too. I can't wait to see what it will be like when I reach master, and get that extra +70 damage and more.
flabajaba2213
Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:37 am
#9

Apparent;y it is a lot easier to "fix" other professions than to actually work and get their own profession fixed. And don't come and talk to me about being elitist or not know what I am talking about. I have been a carbineer, ch, and a pikeman. I know about broken professions.



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Soha
Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:41 am
#10

So you're saying that professions that aren't as powerful as TKA are broken? All of them?
Wamphyrri
Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:46 am
#11

Because the only way ANYONE gets beat is they met someone overpowered.... If the one they were fightingwasn't overpowered then, surely they wouldn't have lost.......


Taking this into consideration... It is their obligation to come in here to let the WORLD.... ( well the world of SWG ) know about the atrocities that are alive and well within the game..... I mean.. To get beat by someone else? OF ANOTHER CLASS?


Honestly I am not worried about the posts.... They say "it's obvious the devs play TKA". I hope they do, then they will know the nerf criers are full of crap and JUSTpeople who readand nitpick skill trees of other professions.... If they focussed that keen eye on their skill trees, they just might see some power there.


Balance is good..... But asking for other professions to be brokendoesn't fix the problems you have with your toon.





Thanks to Vasarian Brandy I am now the town drunk and ONLY go to the AA meetings to brag about the killing spree done during my drunken rage.
swtchry
Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:09 am
#12

If a person is stupid enough to go up against a TK, without good kinetic armor, and doesn't kite...what are they so surprised for? I think our power is limited to the fact we must be in melee range and only do one type of damage. Is it fair that it'll take us longer to wear down an opponet with good armor? Who knows...hopefully the new special moves bar won't drain super fast on us otherwise we might be in trouble *considering if COB and DA is still broken*


Ta'l
Wamphyrri
Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:10 am
#13






Soha wrote:

So you're saying that professions that aren't as powerful as TKA are broken? All of them?







Well..... The Pistoleer that kited me from 40 M didn't believe me when I told him I was overpowered.. He just kept shooting me... And I did tell him... "COOOOOOME BAAAAAAAACK!!!!!! OW! OW! OW! I WANT TO SHOW YOU HOW POWERFUL I AM!!!! OW! OW! OW!" Oddly enough... when I started to burst run to close the distance... He burst run to maintain the distance..


This one was good...I wasdueling my wife (swordsman)... With buffs, food and muon I had a mind of 3000 and doctor buffs. .. Less than a minute into it she says "Hmmmmmm I better cut back some or this is going to be over too soon...... Do you want me to take my armor off to make it more fair for you?" My response was simple and to the point... She had already incapped my twice by the way... (You couldn't even tell she had been in a fight).. So I pulled out my blaster, bled her and then burst run away...



Side note.... If TKA's are soooooo tough, why do most (not all... but most) won't duel if you have armor on... Armor wasn't a factor when she was beating me around the head and shoulders region.. REPEATEDLY.. But her 80% Kinetic resist armor... Well that was a good choice for her....





Thanks to Vasarian Brandy I am now the town drunk and ONLY go to the AA meetings to brag about the killing spree done during my drunken rage.
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